Yes it was the FA who wanted to reduce the number of non UK players to 13 in a squad, but the EPL said no. 65% of current EPL players would have failed to gain a work permit without the EU rules. The current thinking is that if a EPL is offering a contract then the FA will say that is enough, and stop their current points system. There is a special exemption for 16-18 year olds for players moving within the EU, that is not allowed outside it. This has resulted in some of the largest clubs stockpiling young players and allowing them to go on loan to some of the smaller clubs.
As you say Frenchie players are allowed to move within the EU aged between 16 and 18 but what has given the Premiership the advantage is that, according to British law, players can sign professional contracts at 16 - the required age for that in Spain is 18. Not sure what the rules are elsewhere in Europe. A while back Chelsea got a player from the Feyenoord youth academy at 17 and were able to call him a home grown player as a result - which is, apparently, allowed as long as they are in England before the age of 18.
The Home Office already has points based system on which clubs must apply to the FA for a "Governing Body Endorsement". The Home Office will simply have to give new instructions to the FA applicable after the end of the year.
I am amazed that you think the Home Office of all government departments is fit to meddle in football. Of course the EPL will get what they want as the media barons that provide revenue to the government by way of showing matches will have the upper hand. The FA is now a second rate body and have already given in to the EPL over numbers of players that are home grown.
You simply do not understand the present system. The Home Office already sets out the rules which the FA have to work to for non EU players. At the start of 2021 these rules will apply to players from the EU that up to now had a right to work in the UK. There is no reason, as far as employment of non UK nationals is concerned, the quality or quantity of players will necessarily change. It will be up to the FA / EPL to make a convincing case to the Home Office.
They don't have to make a case to the Home Office at all. Sky, BT and increasingly Amazon will do it for them. A government that is short of money will not do anything to kill off that goose. 65% of players are in the EPL by virtue of EU rules, so it is quite pointless to think there will be any change.
[QUOTE="oldfrenchhorn, post: 13555375, member: 1000816"]They don't have to make a case to the Home Office at all. Sky, BT and increasingly Amazon will do it for them. A government that is short of money will not do anything to kill off that goose. 65% of players are in the EPL by virtue of EU rules, so it is quite pointless to think there will be any change.[/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE] Wrong wrong, wrong, the Home Office already sanction the rules the FA / EPL have to work to for non EU nationals. They will roll these rules over for ALL non UK players and presumably coaches etc when we leave the EU. There is some talk of Free Trade Agreements with EU /non EU countries potentially making the process simpler. The government will obviously want to retain the excellent spectacle of English football.
Wrong wrong, wrong, the Home Office already sanction the rules the FA / EPL have to work to for non EU nationals. They will roll these rules over for ALL non UK players and presumably coaches etc when we leave the EU. There is some talk of Free Trade Agreements with EU /non EU countries potentially making the process simpler. The government will obviously want to retain the excellent spectacle of English football.[/QUOTE] Premier league football is in hock to foreign owners, and they in turn are in hock to the TV companies, who in turn are in hock to the foreign countries who buy the TV rights. Anything the Home Office might say or do is little more than cosmetic, and they will soon be set straight by the Treasury. So to believe that football along with other industries are likely to change is pure wishful thinking, as far too much money is involved.
Premier league football is in hock to foreign owners, and they in turn are in hock to the TV companies, who in turn are in hock to the foreign countries who buy the TV rights. Anything the Home Office might say or do is little more than cosmetic, and they will soon be set straight by the Treasury. So to believe that football along with other industries are likely to change is pure wishful thinking, as far too much money is involved.[/QUOTE] The advantages of Brexit is that the Home Office can amend the rules which the FA will apply to ALL future non UK applicants to play in the UK. It may not particularly suit the old Pozzo model, which is why they are changing the emphasis to more home grown players. Brexit will prevent our game being flooded with average players from the EU, giving more opportunities to home grown youngsters. The Home Office will ensure the EPL remains the best league in the world, hopefully with a higher percentage of UK players in future. Our new immigration policy will concentrate on attracting the best talent from around the world, in all industries including sport and entertainment.
We stockpile young talent for sure and a number of the players qualify for the 1st team squad due to this 'home grown' rule for EU players. (good example being Quina) However, it is the Home Office who give special work visas to players who come from the rest of the world and there is a criteria in place for this which is how Richarlison and now Pedro got their visas. Peneranda did not, we failed at least twice to get a visa and so sent him to Spain and Italy until he qualified as European via a Spanish passport! one of the criteria used is in regard to full caps at international level. the full criteria is set to ensure the quality of the players imported to play in our leagues. What will happen in the future, after we have no trade deal with the EU will be up to the government to decide so it is sensible to get more UK players signed to cover our position which I believe we have been trying to do, just in case the government impose strict immigration policy with little or no notice.
Good post. I think the changes will benefit English football. The only concern I have is that it may favour the EPL clubs with the most resources if the talent / experience bar is set too high.
The final squad has been announced. 1 Heurelho Gomes 2 Daryl Janmaat 4 Craig Dawson (HG) 6 Adrian Mariappa (HG) 7 Gerard Deulofeu 8 Tom Cleverley (HG) 9 Troy Deeney (HG) 10 Danny Welbeck (HG) 11 Adam Masina 13 Adalberto Peñaranda 14 Nathaniel Chalobah (HG) 15 Craig Cathcart (HG) 16 Abdoulaye Doucouré 18 Andre Gray (HG) 19 Will Hughes (HG) 21 Kiko Femenía 22 Isaac Success 25 José Holebas 26 Ben Foster (HG) 27 Christian Kabasele 29 Étienne Capoue 33 Ignacio Pussetto 35 Daniel Bachmann (HG) 37 Roberto Pereyra *(HG) denotes home-grown player. The following players all qualify as Under-21s and therefore do not need to be named in the 25-man squad: 17 João Pedro 20 Domingos Quina 23 Ismaïla Sarr 24 Tom Dele-Bashiru 42 Callum Whelan
The latest set of accounts show that the club made a profit of £9M in the accounting period ending 30th June 2019 as opposed to the £30M loss the previous year. Money received from TV was £124M and matchday income, tickets, season tickets, catering and shop sales, £9M and sponsorship £13M. This shows just how much the club is dependent on TV. Half of the £9M profit comes from the resolution of a dispute. I assume this to be between us and Everton over the Silva gate.
Squad: So, we have posted a 24 man squad using up only 13 overseas spots with 11 home grown players. We are evolving season on season and I believe looking not to get caught in a tight spot with changing regulations.
We can still sign one more player who has been out of contract since before the close of the last transfer window. Bring back Luther, I say.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/feb/07/watford-adam-masina-interview Interview with Masina, he seems like a nice chap.
