So how far past the last player should he be before hes considered offside? The only flag if it obvious is the refs interpretation of what to do, nothing to do with the rule.
That's the problem with VAR; it's gone from 'aiming for fairly accurate' to 'no room for error'. I think VAR should have a time limit; clear and obvious should be determined within seconds. They can't even determine at what point they're suppose to draw the lines
30 second time limit would be the best middle ground imo, anything that's 'clear and obvious' should be easily seen in that period and if not, just get on with the ****ing game. I think most match going fans would accept the odd wrong decision - let's face it we're still getting them - if it meant they never had to wait longer than 30 seconds for a decision.
If they're going to keep VAR - and it seems like they are - they need an overhead camera angle for offside. That will sort it.
A time limit would be beneficial, but at the minute I'm not 100% sure why it takes them so long to make a descion. In saying that 99% of descions are made in seconds and dont interfere at all. Again I just dont get what all the furore is about. Sometimes you get the descion, sometimes it goes against you, but at least you've got a good idea it's right now.
I'd just apply clear and obvious to offsides and make it naked eye only, we don't need the lines across the pitch bollocks espescially as it's not accurate enough at the moment anyway. If someone has gained a clear advantage then it will be blatantly obvious from 1/2 replays. If it's not clear after two replays then stick with the onfield decision. It's not rocket science.
It takes them so long because they're aware that there are millions watching and the decision they make will be scrutinised.
There isn't always an onfield offside decision though. The linesman doesn't flag if it's close so the ref can't blow his whistle if he hasn't seen it and the flag stays down. They leave it for VAR to decide. If it's one that's been too close to flag for (the naked eye) then it's too close for VAR naked eye as well hence them resorting to the lines drawn on as they have to add another dimension to a simple naked eye view. It's ott but they have to show VAR has added some value otherwise they may as well just scrap the whole thing and they won't want to do that.
An overhead freeze frame from the minute the ball is released will show exactly who was where, kneecap, arm pits, stray hairs ......
Contact with the ball will be on dozens of frames. Is the point of contact with the ball or when the ball leaves the players contact?
Think the PL are doing it differently aren't they? The linos are flagging but the refs aren't blowing. Anyway, forcing the officials to make decisions rather than relying on technology can only be a good thing imo. There's multiple frames where the ball can be judged to have been released, who decides on which one to use?
A player's possible offside position is marked from the minute when the ball is released from the player passing to him.
When they freeze the screen to check the offside line. They could use one of many, it is determined by when ther ball is passed
There's not a single spot where you can freeze the frame and definitively say that's when the ball is released - there's multiple frames for that action. Which is why for the Pukki one for example, you can't categorically state he was offside. A different frame would likely give a different outcome when it's that close.
