IMO disallowing that goal would have been one of the biggest mistakes of the entire season so the fact that it didn't happen isn't something "for" us, and shouldn't be an excuse for something else to go "against" us later in an "evens out" kind of way.
Exactly, people can huff and puff all they like but both those VAR decisions were correct and entirely in line with decisions made so far this season. Claiming that LFC somehow benefited from them is the same as saying a team benefited from being awarded an obvious corner or any other fecking decision. Liverpool are only miles ahead because VAR has finally got SOME decisions right.
He didn't bottle it his deliberate attitude all game was Liverpool get nothing unless it's absolutely nailed on with video evidence. It's how crap referees "stand up to the Kop".
Like Saint, I don't share your attitude of everyone it's against us. From the referee's angle, it looks like handball so he's given it knowing VAR will review it anyway making whatever decision he comes to null and void
I think it was explained that he blew his whistle after the ball had crossed the line, had he blew it before it would have been ruled out. I think it's one of the things that VAR checked which contributed to the length of time it took.
I think this is a pertinent point, the feeling or view that a team has somehow gained from a var descion. When what they've gained from is the rules being implemented correctly. I may be one of the few people that actually like var, I dont think it holds up play a massive amount. It gets most descions spot on. I also feel diving and other nefarious actions have reduced some what. I'd put up with alot to stop that feeling of being robbed.
For and against is just semantics in this instance. If VAR can go against us which it does, then the opposite must be true.
Then I don't care about for or against just were the rules correctly applied or not. IMO the current offside rule needs tweaking but I see no reason why that new rule should only come into effect half way through one of our games because an opponent has scored against us. Sort it out next season. VAR got more decisions right yesterday than Anthony Taylor did. VAR is therefore undeniably better.
Not everyone, mainly Anthony Taylor and Martin Atkinson. Get clones of Michael Oliver to ref every game and we wouldn't have such a blatant need for VAR.
I'm not sure how or why the offside rule needs changing. At the minute its black and white, people can piss and moan but it's easily measurable. Either hes on or off. If you change it to allow any sort of subjective descion making it opens it up to all sorts of ****ery
Because offside is there to stop blatant goal hanging / gaining a unfair advantage. Being a millimetre offside doesn't gain an advantage but it does take a couple of minutes to make a decision. Then there is the 'only flag if it's obviously, otherwise play on' rule. What if a player picks up a injury in the brief period the flag doesn't go up?
just scanned through this bellend 's video, can't believe people would actually subscribe to that shyte Going on about how their goal shouldn't have been disallowed as you can't score with your hand so it can't be offside. he even rather ridiculously crticised the decisions have against them! He only gave Liverpool THREE FREE KICKS IN THE WHOLE FREAKING GAME! What more does this numbnut actually want?
This has been my biggest argument about the new offside guidance, it has happened several times against us as I am sure it has against other teams.
I find it equally annoying that we seem to stop playing and put our hands up for offside rather than playing to the whistle
Over the last couple of seasons Liverpool have been nearly perfect at playing offside. The new rule means our players are better off letting the opponent walk the ball into the net than risking a foul when they know they've played the line correctly.
The thing I find most amusing is how last year, fans claimed that we'd be ****ed and back in midtable with VAR since it would overrule our 'blatant diving and cheating' and yet this season, fans are claiming VAR is assisting us with our 'diving and cheating' I'm confused.
I don't think anyone except a minority are saying that var is **** because it's helping Liverpool - the vast majority are just saying that it's awful no matter who benefits. And they're right - it's ****ing dogshit Saying var is a conspiracy to help Liverpool is just as ****ing stupid as some Liverpool fans thinking the FA are trying to stop Liverpool from winning anything.
I haven't used the word benefitted because that suggests we got a lucky decision or something we shouldn't have got. I said the VAR decision was in our favour meaning not in the referee's favour which is what has been happening. VAR decisions come down in favour of the ref or the team being reviewed. If it favours us it doesn't mean we got something we shouldn't have.