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Neville Vs Racism

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Cortez91, Dec 23, 2019.

  1. Barchullona

    Barchullona Well-Known Member

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    No. The money involved, the armchair fans supporting clubs they have no connection with and the over exposure is terrible. I am rapidly losing my love for football, at least at the professional level. But racism is nothing like it was in the stadiums, years ago there were thousands chanting abuse then now just a few individual morons come out with remarks.Claims of institutional racism in a sport which pays millions to black players is ridiculous. Ability is the only thing that counts in football.Obviously no player should have to suffer abuse because of the colour of his skin but the fact is that this place is better than a lot of others yet some are trying to make out we are amongst the worst,
     
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  2. askewshair

    askewshair Well-Known Member

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    1. Racism in football generally. Is absolutely institutionaled racism, responsibility of the FA/EPL/FIFA etc
    2. In the ground, responsibility of the individual club ( institute)
    3. Afro caribeans over represented in lower paid groups. Certainly institutional.
     
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  3. Barchullona

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    1) How is it institutionalised in FIFA? African, Caribbean countries and others are massively over represented in comparison to their stature in the game.
    2) Your comment is contradictory.
    3) Afro Caribbeans are paid the same as other players, the going rate for the job. And a lot more than
    I used to be. If you are referring to society in general they get paid the same as anyone else for doing a particular job.

    Anyway, seasonal greetings as it has gone midnight. And all the best for the New .Year.
     
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  4. askewshair

    askewshair Well-Known Member

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    I do agree with you there re love be of football. It's a totally different game to the one I fell in love with.
    Racism is nothing like the eighties. However it is creeping back in, and it does need to be stamped out. Why are non white communities so poorly represented on a Saturday afternoon ( or Tuesday evening at Stoke)? There has to be an institutional aspect to that, it can't be just cultural.
    And you look at the situation in Italy, you are absolutely right, we are not the worst. How does an anti racist programme have monkeys on their posters? It is amost laughable.
     
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  5. askewshair

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    Go back to my original post.
     
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  6. askewshair

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    But why?
     
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  7. askewshair

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    And to you Sir, but over the Christmas period can I suggest you read up on the term Institutionalised racism ?
     
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  8. tigerscanada

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    eh ?
     
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  9. Barchullona

    Barchullona Well-Known Member

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    That was predictive texting. Hypocracy isn’t.

    All the best.
     
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  10. Barchullona

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    No need.
     
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    Bit worrying that we've seen two or three racist incidents in the last few weeks and some people are tantamount to saying,

    "don't worry about it, it used to be worse, it's not a problem."

    It's a massive issue, if you think the problems of the past excuse the problems of the present, maybe 2019 isn't for you.
     
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  12. Chazz Rheinhold

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    As yet unproven

    anyway it’s Christmas Day
    I’m not getting into it
     
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  13. Steven Toast

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    What, the racism?
     
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  14. Heimdallr

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    Maybe the issue is decreasing impulse control and levels of shame amongst many UK adults, rather than an increase of racism. I notice it over the last 15 years on my trips back to the UK. Adults speaking like angry children - arguing in public, swearing, drunkeness, anti social behaviour, road rage etc. Infantile behaviour in public that 20/30 years ago would have been seen as embarrassing. That's not to say that the actions aren't racist, just perhaps that the 'increase' of incidents is actually just a reduction in holding peers up to behavioural standards.
     
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  15. Plum

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    Good point.
     
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  16. Evington

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    Very good point. I have been thinking the same myself. Not sure for how long things have been changing/have changed but they certainly have. Too many people seem to think anti social behaviour is ok/the norm. I must be getting old :emoticon-0101-sadsm.
     
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  17. Cortez91

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    Part of that may be because Wright isn’t exclusive to BBC. He works for ITV, Sky and BT too.
     
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  18. askewshair

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    And yet other football related anti social behaviour has reduced.?
     
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  19. City Man

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    My point was they were all vastly overpaid by the BBC, let alone vastly overpaid by BT, ITV and Sky.
     
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  20. Cortez91

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    Oh Ive totally misunderstood.
     
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