Off Topic General Election Special

They were bullshit political slogans/promises that I doubt very few took seriously.

I live in a country that voted to be outside the EU twice, where clearly financially and consumer-wise many would be better off being in, and yet still the majority of the population wish to remain out. The two main parties that take 70% of the vote are entirely pro-EU but have scaled back on promoting it in their manifestos because it loses them public support each time. So go figure, sometimes gut feeling and the sense of having more control over-rides financial wealth. It's just the way it is.

 

There's rights that should be adhered to like holidays !
Surely you know the entitlements ?

 

The utter lack of comprehension by many Remainer voters as to the motivations of many Leave voters is baffling.

"Many of the Leave-voting areas will be hardest hit if we leave the EU"

"Will it really? You mean we're going to lose that gilded prosperous lifestyle we've enjoyed for decades thanks to the massive inward industrial and infrastructure investment from the EU? However will we cope with this new found poverty? It's going to impact our wealthy lifestyle massively, "

 

Demonstrates the type of campaign they run.

 

We will see how out all shakes out won't we !
I'm surprised you haven't referenced WW2 yet ?

 

I must be naive enough.

A lot of people seem to talk of Corbyn's qualifications from years ago, when I assume he was 16/17.

In terms of your work, do you still get challenged on such? What quals have you got?

 

Who is this we've that voted?

Our democratically elected MEP's or the appointed person on the Council of Ministers?

 

Really sorry to hear that. I've always been in a union and have fought like **** to maintain terms and conditions - and largely maintained them.

 

So it's been your union that has got these rights and maintained them.. Not the EU?

 

Well I would hope so!! I've studied the employment rights act 1996 more times than I'd care to mention and took 2 companies to court under section 13.

I'm currently raising an ET1 against my former employer for refusing to treat me as an equal after 12 weeks continuous employment.

 

Anyone who got A levels in the 60s is not a dunce. Two Grade E at A level was enough to go to University then, even in the 70s. Exam grades were based on percentages of candidates not marks in the exams.

 

So what kind of firm do you work if you don't know what rights you have ?
Do you get paid bank holidays ?
Do you get 20 days paid holiday ?

 

I am calling into question ANY political party leader going into top international negotiation who does not have a good degree from an internationally renowned university, not only Corbyn..

Learning is only part of it....intellect is the other. Corbyn seems to have neither.

Not sure what my job or quallies have to do with it, unless you think I'm Boris Johnson?

 

Quite rightly to

 

If and when we ever leave the EU the world will not stop turning. I predict things will carry on much the same as they do now. Workers rights will be the same and we won't be sending young kids up chimneys. The rules and regulations we follow now wether EU or UK in origin will need to be followed.

 

unless you think I'm Boris Johnson?[/QUOTE]
Even you're not that bad ?

 

I was a shop steward in the TGWU for 10 years and I have watched the erosion of workers rights over the last couple of decades.I wouldn't join a union anymore,most of the conveners and officials are self serving hypocrites these days and line their own pockets in preference to sticking their neck out.

 

Let's hope the rules are followed !
We wouldn't want to end up with a USA style employment system and social rights !

 

He's nearly 70 (or is 70, I forget).

Degree or no degree at his stage - it doesn't matter to me (and I place a high regard to education and academic practice/rigour).

I asked you because I wondered if in your line of work, whatever you do, if it still comes up at your age.

In my opinion, his actions, ideas and practices far out weigh a degree from decades ago.

 

Not necessarily gospel, but wiki....take it or leave it


"While still at school, he became active in The Wrekin constituency Young Socialists, his local Labour Party, and the League Against Cruel Sports.[17] He joined the Labour Party at age 16[10] and achieved two A-Levels, at grade E, the lowest-possible passing grade, before leaving school at 18.[18][19] Corbyn joined the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament (CND) in 1966 whilst at school[20] and later became one of its three vice-chairs and subsequently vice-president.[21] Around this time he also campaigned against the Vietnam War.[22]

After school,[23] Corbyn worked briefly as a reporter for a local newspaper, the Newport and Market Drayton Advertiser.[24] At around the age of 19 he spent two years doing Voluntary Service Overseas in Jamaica as a youth worker and geography teacher.[25][26] He subsequently travelled through Latin America in 1969 and 1970, visiting Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay and Chile. Whilst in Brazil he participated in a student demonstration in São Paulo against the Brazilian military government. He also attended a May Day march in Santiago, where the atmosphere around Salvador Allende's Popular Unity alliance which swept to power in the Chilean elections of 1970 made an impression on him: " noticed something very different from anything I had experienced... What Popular Unity and Allende had done was weld together the folk tradition, the song tradition, the artistic tradition and the intellectual tradition".[27][28]

I'm seeing nothing to convince me he is fit to represent Britain in any kind of meaningful activity