Heres Your British Army

**** me med dog no need to post pictures of you and the Mrs.

 

Doesn't really work when its you leaving comments about talking to an old doll.

 

Not talking med dog, taking.

 

i think the problem i have with this thread is not so much the content of the debate but how it has been presented.

"heres your British army".

well ok, how would it sit if i posted a picture of a black man rioting in London, with a caption reading "heres your black man".

or how about a picture of a dead child killed by an IRA attack, "heres your IRA".

what about a picture of a Catholic priest charged with being a peadophile "heres your Catholic priests ".

you see, i am neither racist, or sectarian, but we have to accept that people from all walks of life are capable of doing the most terrible things.

are members of the British Army doing terrible things? yes, of course.
are members of the ethnic community doing terrible things? yes, of course.
have members of the IRA done terrible things,yes of course.

i would like to add that i have total sympathy for those innocent men, women and children who have been affected by violence, no matter who commited these attrocities, wheather they be British, Irish or whatever.

for me, an innocent life is an innocent life. i dont care which side of the fence you happen to sit on,it is wrong to take these lives.

 

So you do want to go down the "Youse are worse than us" route?

I'll pass, it's pointless.

 

If the British soldiers werent in Iraq, how would they fulfill the urge to kill innocents?

 

What, have some innocent Iraqis been killed recently by UK forces then eddie?

Last I heard loads of Iraqis were killed by bombs planted at markets, was that the Army too?

 

No I don't Dev but the truth is the truth.

 

youve got to stop and listen to yourself here a minute Eddie. are you suggesting that all British soldiers kill innocent people?

sadly, and i do mean sadly, ALL armies/terrorists/freedom fighters do the same.

this is a tragic fact of war.

 

And the PIRA murdered lots of innocent people by blowing them to smithereens. That's the truth too so where has that got us?

 

eddie , you say you do not believe the media?

Where do you get these stories then, Russia Today?

 

You do realise that the nature of war is that innocent people do get killed be it by getting caught in crossfire or mistaken for the enemy. That does not mean that soldiers have an urge to kill innocent people.

 

And if the British army and cohorts weren't there nobody would have been blown up.No?

 

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thats not good enough Irish Green.

how are the innocent victims ( in this case ) of an IRA attack supposed to take that? was it their fault that Ireland is occupied?

 

Was it Ireland's fault?

 

I dont condone any of the actions of the PIRA but they are an independant organisation who see themselves as free to carry out operations in whatever way they feel is necessary probably disregarding the reputational value it will cause. However the British Army as an organisation as a representative of the publicly elected government exists to defend the public of Britain and, as a legitimate army, under international law cannot intentionally cause the deaths of unarmed innocent civilians of any nationality. You cannot compare the PIRA to the Army and cannot use theor actions as justification for British army atrocities. They operate with and exist under a completely different set of rules.

 

Its not the IRA's fault if the british government cant conduct evacuation procedure in a timely and effective manner after a warning.