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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by GroveRanger, Oct 1, 2019.

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  1. Mind The Duck

    Mind The Duck Well-Known Member

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    I can't think of any politician today other than Corbyn offering the white working class anything.

    Chukka Umunna and David Miliband for the people?

    Brexit matters but i still see the white working class miners of Durham and Wales out fighting Labours corner and nearly 3 million voters under 35 registering in the last month.

    Boris gets chased out of hospitals yet crowds gather around Corbyn in the pouring rain and they aren't all from the one age group.

    Boris is absolutely aligned with The Right Wing and you don't ask uninspiring flip flopping wimps to face against that.

    Its populism v populism.

    Swap out one for another Hilary Clinton and see what happens.
     
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  2. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    Labour has noted racists leading the party in Abbot (Her son ended up doing alright going to private school :rolleyes:) and Corbyn.

    They have racists right through the party, Lammy etc..
     
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  3. Mind The Duck

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    Everyone does.

    Labour is full or anti Irish racists.

    To say Corbyn is racist is moronic though.

    Ive no idea about Lammy or Abbots racism.

    I'd trust you but yer a west brit.
     
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  4. DUNCAN DONUTS

    DUNCAN DONUTS SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIOR

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    The biggest problem with Labour is they are terrible with money , especially other people's money .

    We need to build more houses

    We need to build more hospitals

    We need to build more schools

    We need to spend more on the N.H.S

    We need to save the environment and keep unspoiled countryside .


    We also need to import millions of people from **** hole countries that will need more houses than we can build , use our healthcare for "free" use our school places and we will need to build on the unspoiled countryside out of necessity.


    The thick racist white straight working class males will just pay for everything because women and anyone non white British is somehow owed something from the patriarchy and historic colonialism or something.

    That's pretty much Labour in 2019.
     
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  5. Mind The Duck

    Mind The Duck Well-Known Member

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    Its like you read the Labour Manifesto, stopped half way and dreamed about the rest.
     
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  6. GroveRanger

    GroveRanger Well-Known Member

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    Who will Bozo pally up with if he doesn't get a majority? Has he shot his bolt so to speak with the DUP?

    Maybe the gap toothed burd with the excellent tay-tays will join him.

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  7. monacoger

    monacoger POTY 2021

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    I'm guessing Brexit Party, if they win any seats. Doubt any other party would do a deal with him.
     
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  8. A.L.D.O 4.1

    A.L.D.O 4.1 1 of the top defendants in Europe

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    But we do need to build more houses, hospitals etc etc and so on and so forth.

    If you want to talk about shìt with money let's talk conservative. Ten years of austerity where wages stagnated, food banks multiplied, homelessness went aff the scale and they still managed to triple the national debt to well over 2 trillion quid.

    Mind you Atos did well out them so...
     
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  9. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    You’re paying for everything are you? That’ll be a ****ing first, I reckon.
     
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  10. Mind The Duck

    Mind The Duck Well-Known Member

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    We always pay.

    But now you can choose to pay for something that benefits you, instead.
     
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  11. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    The DUP are in cheque mate with Boris as the alternative is Gerry Adams' fluffer aka Corbyn.
     
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  12. The Anilingus Aficionado

    The Anilingus Aficionado Official POTY 2011, 2014, 2015, 2018 & 2023

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    Hearing postal votes are way down on what was posted in 2017.

    Any **** getting good odds on a low turn out, say below the elusive 60% mark?
     
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  13. Black Caviar

    Black Caviar 1 of the top judges in Europe

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    "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered.... I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."

    until this happens, voting is utterly pointless, governments hands tied by interest slavery banking system
     
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    Weather is supposed to be **** in the south. So, that won’t help the turnout.
     
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  15. Mind The Duck

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    Funnily enough i know 2 orange bastards doing exactly as Aldo said and voting Labour to stop break up of uk despite Corbyns gun running at the border.

    Sammy Wilson has suggested its not impossible that he'd back Labour under Corbyn if the alternative was DUP complicity in the break up of the UK (Boris border).

    Smell the glove
     
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  16. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    Seems like a man who talks my language, anyone we know?
     
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  17. Black Caviar

    Black Caviar 1 of the top judges in Europe

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    its attributed to jefferson but he didnt really say it, not exactly anyway
     
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  18. Black Caviar

    Black Caviar 1 of the top judges in Europe

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    This guy Gottfried Feder played a massive role in WWII happening I think but not many will have heard of him, it was his speech on economics which got Hitler into the German Workers Party.

    It was his economic ideas Hitler implemented, one mark for a marks worth of work or goods produced, which ultimately led to Germany going from bankrupt to the richest nation in Europe within 3 years, in turn incurring the wrath of the international banking cartel, leading them to declare war on Germany via their puppets like Churchill.

    This is the reason why Hitler and Nazis are demonised, nothing to do with a made up story about exterminating jews in gas chambers. As you see with wars today, money and power is usually the true reason behind them, pipelines and poppies were more important than how women were treated in Afganistan, but you cant sell that to the masses.


    Gottfried Feder, Manifesto for the Abolition of Enslavement to Interest on Money (1919)



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  19. Black Caviar

    Black Caviar 1 of the top judges in Europe

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    When I heard Gottfried Feder’s first lecture on “Breaking the Slavery of Interest”, I immediately knew that this was a theoretical truth which was of huge importance for the future of the German people.

    The separation of finance capital from the national economy made it possible to oppose the internationalization of the German economy without threatening national self-preservation. I saw Germany’s development much too clearly not to have known that the hardest struggle would have to be fought against international capital and not against hostile people. In Feder’s lecture, I heard a mighty rallying cry for this coming struggle.

    Subsequent developments showed how right our feeling was. Today, we are no longer laughed at by our deceptive, privileged-class sly-boots politicians. Today, if they are not deliberate liars, even they see that international finance capital not only took the lead in nurturing the War, but especially after the struggle has ended it is doing everything possible to make the Peace into a Hell. [Referring to WWI]

    The struggle against international finance and loan capital interest has become the most important point in the program of the German nation’s economic independence and freedom. For those practical people who may object, I offer these answers: All apprehensions about the economic consequences that would follow the abolition of the slavery that results from interest-based financing capital are not valid because in the first place, the economic principles that we have previously followed already proved to be quite disastrous to the interests of the German people.

    [ Mein Kamp - Ford Edition - pg 138 ]
     
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  20. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    I'm liking this guy even more.
     
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