450,000 people will vote for the next leader of the Labour Party. Maybe they won’t all see eye to eye with you, and will pick a candidate not to your liking. But I expect the majority of members will then get behind the new leader whoever it is, and begin working hard for the next Labour government.
I have used the words greedy, selfish and stupid but they were not used to describe Brexiteers, they were used to describe people I have personal experience with, and many of them are my own family members, people I have known for many years and their friends. These are people who believe everything the media throws up with regard to trashing Corbyn and Labour. They are also people who will vote to protect what they have and what they see as their right and do not believe many of the facts about the state of the country, the NHS or the environment. In that respect they are ****ing stupid, greedy and selfish, for wanting to protect their status quo at the expense of others less fortunate than them. Argue with that if you want but it is true. Why is Jeremy Corbyn so 'unpopular'? Friday will determine whether he is as unpopular as the media tell us, but yes I do agree that his delivery and persona doesn't make for a good fit in these days of celebrity political status and the idiotic PM is far more 'interesting', especially if you prefer EastEnders to Question Time. If you ever take time to watch and listen to Corbyn you come away with a sense of his deep compassion for others and his unwillingness to condemn even the most easy of targets like the IRA. Mo Mowlam was exactly the same, and history has proven her stance over meeting with and encouraging the IRA to become involved with peace talks as an essential element in bringing an end to the troubles. Mo Mowlam was derided by the Tory press and pilloried by the Eton educated toffs, but she did what they could never do, because she was a politician of the people. Blair revelled in the glory but it was people like her that made it happen. People like to point the finger at the IRA and believe they were the sole cause of the troubles. That is the American way of re-writing history and it just doesn't stand up. Catholics in Northern Ireland have always had the **** end of the stick and is it really surprising that sooner or later they would fight back? Even today there is still a problem with Catholics getting certain jobs in NI. Yes it was sectarian and yes it was murderously bloody but believing the IRA were the only bad guys ignores the fact that the Protestants were every bit as guilty of violence and wanted the Catholics gone. The British Army didn't cover itself with glory either, with a proven 'shoot to kill' policy and a government sanctioned rogue army murder squad called the FRU (Force Research Unit). The reason Jeremy Corbyn didn't and still doesn't condemn the IRA, or the Palestinians, or Hezbollah is because there are always two sides to every conflict and there is never just one bad guy. What Corbyn does condemn is violence, no matter who is responsible. That is a far more honourable stance than the sound-bite rhetoric of the Trump/Johnson style of politics where identifying the 'enemy' is seen to be a strength. It's actually a weakness and politically inept. British troops in Afghanistan proved by talking to locals, and even meeting with the Taliban, they were able to bring about a series of tentative ceasefires in Helmand Province. Talking works. Finger pointing condemnation doesn't. If the Tories are elected it won't be just because people don't trust Jeremy Corbyn, or just because they do trust Boris Johnson. As in everything, there will be many factors playing out in the result, but blaming Corbyn for loosing or being unelectable because he is a 70's throwback who refuses to condemn the IRA etc is not going to be the reason.
The big mistake with Ireland was not handing over the whole caboodle in 1921. In many ways Corbyn and McDonell were ahead of the game on Irish politics, much of what they did just presaged the GFA. No my quibble with Jezza is much the same as it was with Gordon Brown and the Tories had with Treeza, they just don't come across well with people. Pfeffel isn't any better but he has a whole tranche of Brexit loonies in support of him. This election is going to be won and lost north off a line from The Wash to The Severn and it's going to be erstwhile Labour voters who do it, either by holding firm or defecting to the worst PM in living memory.
Rational thinking of two leave voters of my acquittance: No 1. Me: Why did you vote leave? Her: I have to work with a horrible Polish woman and I voted leave so that she would be sent home. No 2. A retired Welshman who lives in a pokey little village in the middle of Wales who saw a black face once when he had stitches in a finger wound in A&E many years ago. Me: Why did you vote leave? Him: I don't like all this immigration. These people are taking our jobs and our houses. They should all have to go back.
Regarding the alleged punching of a Tory advisor, at the Leeds hospital, it looks like politics has teamed up with football. We have a man pointing and gesticulating with his right arm. A Tory comes up on his blind side and appears to deliberately make contact with the man’s arm, with his head. Immediately the Tory media scream for a penalty. Fortunately a review of the video, VAR, clearly shows that despite there being contact, there was no intent and that the Tory may even have been looking for a penalty. Unfortunately the report of the alleged punch has been reported throughout the country, creating an unnecessary uproar, with Labour supporters being branded as thugs. Still, I am sure that the reporters that were so quick to spread the news will do their utmost to make sure that their followers realise that there was no punching involved and that they were wrong. They will, won’t they?
Once again, it was the BBC’s Laura Kuenssberg leading the charge. She tweeted that a Labour activist (he wasn’t) had punched a Tory aide. The rest of the media followed on gleefully, quoting the saintly Laura. She later, once the video evidence had made it obvious what happened was a complete accident, deleted the tweet. No difference made to the story. Labour are thugs, the boy on the floor was a staged event. Long live the British Third Reich.
Mate I'm truly sorry to hear about your Nan. May she rest in peace. My comments have been purposely taken out of context. I'm not pretending that all is well with NHS far from it. I am fully aware about its short comings. I have a daughter who is a nurse working in a hospital. I also have a granddaughter working in one as well. I too have been to hospital waited in a corridor on a trolley because they didn't have a bed. I have also seen an A&E Packed out so much so they were queuing through the main corridor and outside. I have seen patients on a drip feed laying across a couple of chairs. Again because the staff had nowhere else to put them. The boy on the floor had to be staged..........It shouldn't have happened it would never have happened. My niece is a consultant working in an A&E in one of the busiest hospitals around. I asked her about this incident. Her initial comments are unprintable. She immediately said this was staged...........(For the record she is an out and out labour supporter has been all her life.) She says the staff at the hospital would never have let that happen. They would have found some way of keeping that boy off the floor. The most contaminated area in a hospital?...no way. If it did happen all I can say is the whole place should be shut down. Shortages or no this should never have happened. Sorry my Wrath is still with the hospital...but as I say I am convinced it was staged. All main parties have treated the NHS poorly. If truth be known since the late 50s early sixties.
Oh that’s all right then. The Wrath of Beddytare will smite the evil hospital. Yeah, shut all the hospitals down because similar things happen in every hospital across the country all the time. Let’s scrap the NHS and all pay for even basic healthcare over the counter. Let’s all sell our houses, our cars, our underpants, if we have to have an operation, just like those nice Americans have to. It wasn’t staged, not even the Tories are claiming that. Just people making excuses for them, like you.
Marina Hyde puts it rather well: https://www.theguardian.com/politic...oto-prompts-boris-to-add-larceny-to-mendacity
I'm not defending anyone but you seemed determined to make out that I am such an ogre because I refuse to agree with you??? You are more blinkered than I thought.!!!!!!! I don't agree with you.........Just as I don't know for sure it wasn't staged...just as you don't. Just because you think otherwise doesn't make it so!!!!!!! You think Im going to go away because I dare to disagree. Then you do not know me very well!!!! I try to keep an open mind I do listen and question I don't think My decisions are the only decisions that should count I don't care whether you agree or disagree or anyone for that matter. I repeat if that department in the hospital allowed that to happen it should be closed down immediately. Staff retrained and put elsewhere. There is no excuse.......but again I don't think that need happen because it was staged. Add that to your pipe and smoke it chilcs!! Edit..........For the record I hate the tories too......I don't defend them at all
Yes my 38 years in the NHS made me completely ignorant of the reality of what’s happened to the NHS. Your comments are risible. You think any acute department has the luxury of being able to retrain an entire workforce? I agree with you that ever since Thatcher got in the NHS has been being slowly, but steadily, dismantled and privatised. She started it, Major and Blair continued it, but the real, hardcore damage has happened in the last 9 years of austerity and cutbacks, with whole sections of health and social care sold off to the likes of Virgin. The NHS is failing because of the last 9 years. The story of the boy on the floor, as has been said, is only surprising because people are surprised at it. It didn’t need to be staged, as I say, similar things happen all the time, everywhere. The Tories are trying to make people like you angry with the NHS, so they can sell more of it to Trump once we have left the EU. And once again, you have fallen for it. Stick that where the sun don’t shine, Beddy.
https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/10/trol...spital-floor-faked-labour-activists-11589821/ Stick that, etc.,etc.
