Spot on Goldie... Corbyn is the one who is unelectable. Women don't like him, the Jewish community doesn't like him. Business are worried sick about him. Even his own MPs want him gone. Boris comes across as a toff and says some silly things but he is a million times more electable than Comedy Corbyn.
What do you mean was? You are deluded Stroller, he is way ahead in the most important and comprehensive poll. All these other Labour loving polls are not even worth discussing.
Johnson's advisors saw Corbyn skewered by Neil, and thought they'd look for another interviewer. It's a question of damage limitation with all these politicians. Is it better to be grilled and look an idiot, or run from the interview, and look cowardly. Johnson should submit to the Neil interview
Oh dear and who was in charge and de regulated the city, de regulated the controls and let their banker friends run amok, who was in charge and allowed the crash to happen and sat by, now who was that I wonder .............. Oh yea I remember now Gordon f**cking Brown Liebour chancellor and future Prime minister, you remember him don’t you, the man who sold our gold reserves for ****all !! Don’t blame the man who closed the door to prevent more losses, blame the idiot who left it open, and we know who that was.
Is it any surprise that services and co have been cut then? You know countries with hano surpluses have all gone and used austerity measures
Johnson gets by on bluster and a 'can-do' attitude, that can only take you so far. Corbyn is doing what he did at the last election, adding freebies throughout the campaign that weren't in the manifesto, last week it was £58 billion for the WASPI women, today it's £1.5 billion in rail fare reductions. F*ck knows what he's feeding the Magic Money tree with on his allotment, it must be on steroids but it will undoubtedly bring in some undecided votes, will it be enough?...
The problem is that these ‘bottomless pockets’ election pledges win votes. The Corbyns of this world simply have to seize power then renege on a few promises, blame the previous administration, the rich and (probably) the Jews, over tax and overspend, call another election, lose, whinge about the harsh measures the Tories have implemented to try and sort the mess out, then make a whole host of unfundable pledges all over again whilst the Blue corner is again unpopular. The electorate had fabulously short memories. Remember the first election after WW2? Thank you, Winston, you can **** off now. Only 5 years of Attlee before they wanted the Tories back in... and those were the 5 years that Nye “Full Of Hatred For The Tories” Bevan gave us the NHS.
Vote Labour, vote higher unemployment. https://fullfact.org/economy/has-labour-ever-left-office-lower-unemployment-it-started/ The bigger the State the less competitive the nation. All you’re doing is paying state-employed people out of tax revenues, then replenishing tax revenues by deducting tax from their pay. It’s an ever decreasing pot of money that can only be maintained by taxing private business and their employees and bosses more. Is it any wonder that private enterprise collapses under the strain of higher tax revenues and those that can sod off to where the tax regimes are kinder? I ****ing would if I could. The more left-leaning philosophy of Corbyn and his hate-filled mate, McDonnell, is terrifying to the extreme.
The difference both in 2017 and now is Labour are running rings round the Tories on social media. Their target voters are the millenial generation and they've fairly wrapped that demographic up. The Blue Rinse brigade are diminishing fast and unless the Tories find a way of bolstering their core vote they'll be history. I think there's every chance this election could be a Hung Parliament and, if so, a perfect time to introduce PR as a condition of supporting whichever party has the capability of forming a coalition. It would rein in the extremes which have polarised politics in the past few years and possibly produce a broader consensus in the middle ground, although I won't hold my breath...
There’s a new generation of dot-com, app, IoT, blockchain, soshul meeja and cryptocurrency millennial millionaires that have social consciences and today are left leaning liberals. But I believe this breed will ‘get it’ sooner or later. In these days of no free speech, I suspect many are publicly one thing and privately another when it comes to their politics. Stroller, for example, is a Tory-voting transsexual with a burgeoning internet make-up empire.
Hung parliament is worst of all worlds. We'd be back to stalemate. If the Tories lose, it would be better to give the population a dose of Corbyn's "back to the 1970's". Those of us that experienced it can sit back watch the youngsters deal with it. They'll have a party and once all the money's run out and the country's hamstrung by strikes and secondary picketing, they'll be Tory voters
My biggest fear is that the Leave vote will be split between CON and BXP and let LAB or the Chesty Party in. Polling in Mrs Balls’ constituency suggests such a possibility. I’d like to know how many Leave LAB voters are actually going to vote BXP. Farage could end up the reason why Brexit doesn’t happen.
Yes, I agree. I don't understand why Farage hasn't put his weight behind the Tories. He seems to want this Canada plus plus deal, but it seems to me the Boris Withdrawal Deal is practical though not perfect. Who knows how the polls will fluctuate over the next 10 days...?
GLOBAL financial crash. Oh, and it was Thatcher that deregulated the financial sector. Admittedly, Blair/Brown should have put more controls in place but at the time the Tories were crying out for even less regulation.
Wouldn’t it just. I agree with Goldie. Perhaps we should have Corbyn for 5 years and see what a ****ing ****hole he turns this country into.
o Debunking the myth that Tories are better than Labour with the economy Contrary to widespread perceptions, the economy performs no worse under Labour than under the Tories—by some measures it does much better. please log in to view this image by T.J. Coles November 19, 2019 in Business & Economics, Economics please log in to view this image Boris Johnson told the Confederation of British Industry that, unlike Labour, the Tories “believe emphatically in fiscal prudence”. Mainstream media tend to agree. Channel 4, for instance, has a fact-checking page for the claims of both parties. The results lean towards economic Conservatism. The public appears to agree, too, with a majority of voters “trusting” the Tories more than Labour with their money. But this unnuanced picture is mostly establishment propaganda. With the general election underway and the Tories going big on their supposedly superior economic record, it’s worth seeing how the facts contradict the perception. Recessions and coffins Referencing worker-strikes during Labour’s Winter of Discontent (1978-79), Dominic Raab warned voters that if Labour gets into power there will again be coffins in the streets and rubbish piled high. Recessions are a measure of overall economic performance and viability. The fact is that since 1955, when they were first measured, there have been 14 recessions and contractions (by year or quarter) and 10 of them occurred under Tory governments. Let that sink in. So, if Labour are so bad with the economy, why have more recessions occurred under Tory governments–and in proportion to their number of years in office? Far from Labour setting a trend of reckless borrowing, it was the Tory PM Harold Macmillan who first tried to borrow from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) to save the economy from pound-to-dollar inflation caused by the Suez crisis (1956). The IMF said “no” and the economy contracted. Fast-forward to 1976, to the aftermath of the oil crisis. The right wing of the Labour party convinced PM Harold Wilson to do what the Tories had attempted: to borrow from the IMF. The aim was to reduce the UK’s deficit. This time, the IMF agreed, but imposed harsh public cuts, which contributed to the widespread strikes and PM Jim Callaghan’s Winter of Discontent. So, Labour gets the blame for doing what the Tories had attempted two decades earlier. The global crash Despite the fact that there were four recessions and contractions (by year) during Margaret Thatcher’s term alone (1979-90), and three during Major’s (1990-97, including Q4 of 1990), Labour continues to take the blame for the global financial crisis in 2008, even though Labour was at the time pursuing the very “light touch” financial regulation favoured by Tories. The “light touch” is something that Chancellor and later PM Gordon Brown said was a mistake. Another propaganda weapon used against Labour is the post-crash memo written by Treasury Secretary Liam Byrne to his successor, saying: “I’m afraid there is no money.” This added to the perception of Labour’s economic incompetence. Both the Tories and the Liberal Democrats used the memo as an election prop and a reminder that the economy is not safe with Labour. But Byrne’s memo was in reality a practical joke and later a source of personal regret, given its political power. Debts and deficits Consider other economic measures, like Labour’s record on real wages and deficit reductions. In contrast to myths about Labour widening the deficit (i.e., when spending exceeds revenue), data shows that the deficit stabilised under both the post-WWII Labour and Tory governments. By 1970, Labour’s Wilson had brought the deficit down to nearly minus 2 per cent of GDP. But within four years, the Tories under Edward Heath had increased the deficit. It peaked under Wilson (1974-76) and the oil crisis at nearly 8 per cent, before slowly declining. Thatcher brought the deficit down to Wilson’s late-60s-early-‘70s levels. But under Thatcher and Major, the deficit shot up again only to be gradually reduced by New Labour. Consider public sector net debt. By 1955 under the Tories, public sector net debt was 140 per cent (relative to GDP). It continued to fall under Wilson’s Labour government (1964-70) and was at 50 per cent by 1979, when Thatcher came to power. But Thatcher’s successor John Major increased it and it continued to climb under New Labour. Under the Tories, it is now over 80 per cent–and that excludes what is owed to public sector banks. Unemployment and wages The Tories boast of “record employment.” Leaving aside the fact that many people have dropped out of the labour market and those that remain are often in insecure work, today’s employment levels are only a few percentage points higher than when they peaked under Harold Wilson in the 1960s. Consider the longer-term trends. Data demonstrate that post-WWII employment figures were relatively stable under the Tories. But before the financial crisis, employment actually peaked at 74 per cent under Wilson’s 1966 Labour government. In 1979, following Callaghan’s Labour government, more than seven in 10 working-age people were employed. But as soon as Thatcher took office later that year, employment fell off a cliff. It had declined to 65.9 per cent within her first four years in office. It took seven years for employment to reach a high of over 70 per cent again, only to decline under Major in 1993. The steadiest period of employment was during the pre-financial crisis years of New Labour. Even during the crisis, employment never fell below 70 per cent, a number still superior to both the records of Thatcher and Major. Finally, let’s look at wages. A big GDP is all very well, but it doesn’t help if real wages and salaries stagnate. The value of wages and salaries (VWS) increased during the Wilson-Callaghan years. Like employment rates, however, it fell off a cliff in 1980 under Thatcher, reaching a low of 2.5 per cent in 1993. The New Labour years saw fluctuations, with a high of 8.2 per cent in 1998 and a low of 2.9 per cent in 2002. The Great Recession brought VWS down to just 0.2 per cent, but Tory austerity meant that it took six long years to creep the measure up to 3.9 per cent by 2015, which is still lower than New Labour’s peak. Disinvesting the real economy in favour of financial markets By several measures–public sector debt, public sector borrowing, macro-economic stability, and the value of wages and salaries–successive Tory governments have not only failed to perform better than their Labour counterparts, they have often performed worse. The simple reason is that they disinvest in the real economy in favour of financial markets and give proportional tax breaks to the richest. Yet, despite the facts, Labour’s critics continue to peddle the line that economic Conservatism is the only viable option. Check the facts before swallowing the dogma.
