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General Election 2019

Discussion in 'Watford' started by colognehornet, Oct 31, 2019.

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General Election 2019

  1. Labour

    12 vote(s)
    36.4%
  2. Tory

    9 vote(s)
    27.3%
  3. Lib. Dem

    6 vote(s)
    18.2%
  4. Green Party

    1 vote(s)
    3.0%
  5. Brexit Party

    2 vote(s)
    6.1%
  6. SNP

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Plaid Cymru

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. None of the above

    2 vote(s)
    6.1%
  9. My legs because they support me

    1 vote(s)
    3.0%
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  1. oldfrenchhorn

    oldfrenchhorn Well-Known Member
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    I asked you before what would be your reaction to some tents being set up outside your house. Never did get an answer.
     
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  2. superhorns

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    I would advise the tent dwellers it was very unsafe to camp outside my house as they would undoubtedly be squashed by the odd car driving down my lane. There is also the chance of badgers, deer and foxes interrupting any sleep. If they camped in the AONB woods next door I would probably make them a cup of tea and advise them to vote Conservative.
     
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  3. oldfrenchhorn

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    No fixed abode means they have no say.
     
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  4. superhorns

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    I'm sure they will remember my good advise when back in the system.
     
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  5. yorkshirehornet

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    advise - is the verb
    advice - is the noun
     
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  6. superhorns

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    Thank you for your contribution.
     
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  7. superhorns

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    The latest poll on political leaders has Boris ahead in every category, quite impressive.


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  8. superhorns

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    The National Trust would have evicted any squatters very quickly, they don't mess around.
     
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    I see de pfeffel is running scared of Mr Neil... "can't agree a date"... "in negotiations with..."
     
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  10. superhorns

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    Corbyn has dodged out of two television debates in the wake of his disastrous interview with Andrew Neil.
     
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  11. Hornet-Fez

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    No he hasn't.
     
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  12. superhorns

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    THE latest poll, the massive 100,000 interview YouGov commissioned by the Times gives the Tories a thumping majority if election was now. This was the only poll that correctly predicted the 2017 result so is well respected.

    Disgruntled traditional Labour 'leave' voters are switching to the Tories to 'Get Brexit done. Whole swathes of solid Labour seats behind the 'red wall' in the Midlands and North would turn blue.

    It also shows the LibDems only gaining one solitary seat, handy because they will still all fit in a minibus. The polling model shows none of the MPs who defected to the LibDems would win their seats. It appears the LibDem's proposal to revoke article 50, if in power, has seriously backfired. Even many 'remainers' are uneasy with this anti democratic stance.

    Political map on current voting intentions but still plenty of time for Labour to narrow the gap. The PM would be wise to be unable to find time to squeeze in a time slot for an Andrew Neil interview.

    Steady as we go Boris!!





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  13. colognehornet

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    We are truly being bombarded by opinion polls from all directions. The polls didn't get it right last time, and they didn't get it right for the referendum either. But, just assuming they are right - what would be the consequences of a Tory majority ? All of those Labour voters who transferred their vote to the Tories to 'Get Brexit done' would realize firstly that Brexit wasn't done - ie. the real punch up is about to begin, and secondly that the flip side of 'getting brexit done' would be having to live under the most right wing administration for ;possibly, the next 4-5 years. Another war would also commence ie. the battle to hold the UK together when Northern Ireland realizes that there is a border in the north sea, and Scotland realizes it is being drawn into a hard Brexit against its will. A Tory majority will probably see the breakup of the UK - and, as someone of Scottish parentage, I pray that Scotland can remove itself from this mess as quickly as possible. But the fun will really begin with the EU, because you will then be trying to negotiate a trade deal with a future competitor (no longer a partner), but you will still be tied to their laws until the end of 2020.
     
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  14. superhorns

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    The same poll to the one above did get it right in 2017. I expect it to be roughly right this time unless there is a major Tory disaster before the election.

    A one nation Tory government with a healthy majority is just what the country needs. It is the best way to leave the EU, as promised, and to reunite the country. NI will quieten down when they realise the actual new trading arrangement can work with minimum paperwork. Scotland will huff and puff then realise due their massive reliant on finance from London and the difficulties of rejoining the EU, will accept they cannot have another referendum for years.

    I accept there are major future problems with the defensive EU. If as reported, free movement would need to be part of any free trade deal, I can see the UK leaving without a deal at the end of next year then trading on WTO terms.
     
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  15. yorkshirehornet

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    BBC reporting on latest polls this morning.. Tory lead squeezed now.. And apparently YouGov say similar profile to what happened at the last election.
    Another article says around 110, 000 votes in key marginals will decide it....
     
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  16. superhorns

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    It is vitally important that all leave voters and those that want to avoid an extreme left government, led by a couple of Marxists, should not assume a Tory majority is in the bag. There should be no complacency just expecting common sense to prevail.
     
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  20. colognehornet

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    Just to place Scotland's deficit in context SH:
    According to the net fiscal balances from 2018, the largest deficits were found in:
    North West England
    Scotland
    Wales
    West Midlands
    North East England
    Northern Ireland
    East Midlands
    South West England (overpoportionately Cornwall)
    England as a whole

    Surpluses were recorded in:
    London
    South East England
    East of England

    So Scotland is far from being the only supported area of the UK - in fact, most of the UK comes into this category. They are also 'assisted' areas of the EU - meaning that they receive EU money - sometimes in larger amounts compared to what comes out of Westminster. It appears, of course, that London and the South East is subsidizing the whole show until you realize that London is syphoning off money from the rest of the country. This happens because:
    1. Most interest is paid in London.
    2. Most profits are recorded in London
    3. Most leasing is recorded in London
    4. This is true of rents as well.
    5. Credit card fees and bank charges will, largely, be recorded in London
    6. The same applies to insurance

    In addition:
    - Most bosses are in London
    - The same applies to the highest paid employees
    - The same applies to most oligarchs
    - Most wealth is in the South East, and so are those who charge high fees to service it.

    So, incomes are highest in London. But the work needed to support all of this is done in the rest of the country for much lower wages. Wealth is sucked out of the country to be recorded in London. This hasn't actually changed because in the days of them thar satanic mills most of Britain's wealth was made in the north and spent in the south. All of which raises the question of who actually subsidizes who ? Basically London and the South East is parasitic on the rest of the UK ! This includes Scotland.
    As to whether the EU would open it's arms to an independent Scotland - just wait and see ! They wouldn't accept Scotland if the UK were still members, but brexit opens up a new range of possibilities.
     
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