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  1. A.L.D.O 4.1

    A.L.D.O 4.1 1 of the top defendants in Europe

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    WTF!

    British Telecom was a world leader in telecommunications before it was privatised. After privatisation and the subsequent asset stripping it went to pot. It's only in the last few years it has started to get back up to speed. The UK should have wall to wall fibre optic broadband for a nominal fee. BT were too busy paying out share issues to swap old telephone lines for FO.

    You really are a ******.
     
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  2. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    Yup. BT's original broadband tech was bought by a Dutch/other ****s consortium known as O2 who still sell it back to us.
     
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  3. A.L.D.O 4.1

    A.L.D.O 4.1 1 of the top defendants in Europe

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    And another thing!

    BT out of the "denationalised" companies was by far the worst. As I said it was a world leader. At the forefront of telecommunications.

    As with all Tory fire sales of the time it was sold off for a fraction of it's true worth. The majority of shares went to speculators who sold their shares weeks later at ×10s their money. TheThatcher government threw the BT workforce a bone of free shares depending on service. Privatisation saw 50% of that workforces service come to an end. It also saw BT getting left behind in the digital age.

    Is there any company that has done well out of denationalisation?

    Are customers any better off?
     
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  4. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    So, err, how are things, mate. General Election getting ye stressed?
     
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  5. DUNCAN DONUTS

    DUNCAN DONUTS SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIOR

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    If a government wanted to take back control of our internet and Nationalise it , would it not have to pay the current owners to get it back ?

    I would prefer it if our trains electricity and water were all state owned just not sure you can just force companies that now own them to simply return them .

    Gordon brown selling our gold and silver off on the cheap wasn't the greatest plan either.
     
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  6. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    Someone currently owns the Internet? <yikes>

    Who is it? I bet it's Eddie.
     
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    DUNCAN DONUTS SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIOR

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    I think it's the Russians.
     
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  8. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    Well, if anyone can own a disconnected network of networks then aye, them's the guys. No doubt.

    Except, mibby the chinks?

    Is your missus a secret agent for Beijing? Are you? Ya ****in traitor?

    #MI6 #watched
     
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    DUNCAN DONUTS SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIOR

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    Someone owns the cables under the ground.

    Richard Branson probably
     
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  10. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    Openreach is it not?
     
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  11. A.L.D.O 4.1

    A.L.D.O 4.1 1 of the top defendants in Europe

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    I think you could just do what they did in the 1950s when nationalising industry.

    If they haven't lost the drawings for it like what they did for the moon landings and the Ford Escort of course.

    @DevAdvocate to confirm
     
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    A.L.D.O 4.1 1 of the top defendants in Europe

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    Virgin.

    And so are you
     
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  13. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    Yes I'm on Virgin mate but they've a fraction of the stock of Openreach shirley
     
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  14. DUNCAN DONUTS

    DUNCAN DONUTS SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIOR

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    I read that in the voice of Yoda
     
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    A.L.D.O 4.1 1 of the top defendants in Europe

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    Openreach is BT and the vast majority of it's "broadband" network uses the BT telephone network. So its copper wire and not fibre optic.

    Hope this helps
     
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  16. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    BT own openreach do they not? And their fibre is top notch.

    Virgin/Cable covers very little if the country.
     
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    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    The "cables" were telephony backbones first laid down about a century ago to allow trans continental telephone calls. Owned by corporates who paid to have them laid to make money leasing their usage to telephony operators.

    These backbones were then re-used to modulate and demodulate Internet packets over them. Remember 24k modems and slow speed? Took an hour to download a picture of a nekkid woman? I do. Fondly.

    Over the subsequent years these physical backbones have been upgraded to cable and then fibre. Again by corporates who paid to upgrade/lay them to lease back their usage to Internet Service Providers for money.

    Nobody owns the "cables".

    Nobody owns the Internet. It's impossible.

    The Internet was built on ARPANET back in the 1980's by the US Dept. Of Defence. Despite being Americans they did a much better job than anyone could ever have expected.

    The Internet is a disconnected network of networks. You can't break it, disturb it, or monitor it. How can that be owned?

    The problems on the Internet are the applications that run on it. In particular "social media". Those are monitored. Think hard before you get a Facebook account.

    Oh, my, I just did a rant without meaning to <laugh>

    Did Simon just pop me? <grr>
     
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  18. A.L.D.O 4.1

    A.L.D.O 4.1 1 of the top defendants in Europe

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    Ffs C. Openreach dont have a fibre optic network. Their internet service piggy backs on the BT telephone network and runs through the existing, antiquated copper cabling. it's broadband speeds don't come any where near virigins.

    Virgin media covers 45% of the UK. All fibre optic.
     
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  19. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    Correct. BT mostly runs over POTS (Plain Old Telephone System - aka copper wire) using (A)DSL modems.
     
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  20. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    Link to virgin cable covering 45% of the UK pls.

    BT do have fibre
     
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