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Charlie Adam - I saw it coming.

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Flappy Flanagan (JK), Sep 19, 2011.

  1. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

    Flappy Flanagan (JK) Well-Known Member

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    Charlie Adam has settled in well at Liverpool, his passing, movement, vision and team skills have really boosted Liverpool's attack and made the team much stronger in possession.


    But take the ball away from LFC and we gain a problem.

    I am a big fan of Adam, but I had one major concern when we signed him. He cannot tackle. His tackling technique, timing and confidence is terrible. His tracking back is also poor.

    Last season Adam's disciplinary record was poor for Blackpool due to his poor tackling.


    I have to admit, I was waiting for the incident of yesterday to happen.


    Adam has improved our team, but if he wants to keep his place, especially with the return of Gerrard imminent, he has to improve his defensive skills.
     
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  2. Jonesey

    Jonesey Well-Known Member

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    He got 11 yellows last year with Blackpool, but no reds.

    Strangely enough, Blackpool had the least amount of yellow cards in the prem (47)
     
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  3. KingEric07.

    KingEric07. cape wearing twat

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    He mig just be trying too hard and going in for tackles that he wouldn't normal go in for. There is alot of competition for your midfield and with that and trying to impress his new clubs fans / management that will probably be contributing.
     
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  4. Skylarker

    Skylarker PL High Commissioner

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    Good point Eric <ok>
     
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  5. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

    Flappy Flanagan (JK) Well-Known Member

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    I dont know. I'v seen him do some terrible tackles in the past.


    We dont want him to end up like Paul Scholes. I know Scholes was very successful, but he never learnt to tackle and it was also nervy seeing him helping out the defence for England... Or against Liverpool.
     
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  6. The Huddlefro

    The Huddlefro Well-Known Member

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    He almost seriously damaged Bales' leg near the end of last season as well

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpEYhKWOF2c

    Nasty, still makes me cringe, that kept him out for long enough but it could have been so much worse
     
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  7. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

    Flappy Flanagan (JK) Well-Known Member

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    Spearing's tackling is far better than Adam, but he doesn't add the passing, vision and forward delivery quite to the same level as Adam.


    I am a fan of Adam btw, I am glad we have him.
     
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  8. theStath

    theStath Active Member

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    rather have him than not have him
     
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  9. mighty_stevie_g

    mighty_stevie_g Well-Known Member

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    I don't think it is too much of a problem tbh, Lucas is the tackler and the one who tracks back - would rather this than 2 defensive holding midfielders, Adam is there to create and get play running.

    Only time this will be a problem I think is if Adam and Gerrard pair up in the centre cos Adam will then act as the holding midfielder and as said is very rash with his tackles.
     
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  10. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    That's a very constructive observation coming from pne of you people, Eric.
     
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  11. good kop red kop

    good kop red kop Active Member

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    My abiding memory of the game on Sunday was the way Scotty Parker looked as though he'd been playing for Spurs for five years.... I think we missed out there (if it was ever on.) GKRK.
     
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  12. Skylarker

    Skylarker PL High Commissioner

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    A combination of them both would be perfect.
     
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  13. Kop79

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    When Lucas came to us he was going hard and reckless into players conceding free kicks in dangerous areas and look what has become of him
    Now i'm not saying that it will take Adam 2/3 seasons but for crying out load give the lad time
    Like mentioned he might be a bit to keen to impress KK because he knows we have a lot of midfield players

    Yes he did get a lot of yellows last season but he just has to learn a bit of discipline when going in

    With the right guidance he will come good for us
     
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  14. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    The problem his is Adam's positional awareness iS awful, he always gets caughts in the wrong positions to win the ball back so he ends up giving away free kicks and getting cheap yellows.
     
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  15. Henducas

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    yeah when he got booked (first yellow) i somehow knew that a second was going to come, but didnt think itd be that early. Hes been a bit rash with tackles and the other games also worried me a little regarding bookings
     
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  16. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff Forum Moderator

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    As a neutral - this 100000000%!! Shocking tackle - and he did the same against us but got away with it cos the players foot wasn't planted - he's going to find it very difficult to tackly like that - he should have walked for that challneenge on Bale and could easily have been sent off a few more times last season
     
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  17. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    Never thought I'd see a football fan who watches Lee Cattermole and Phil Bardsley weekly complaining about other players tackling <laugh>
     
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  18. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    heres one simple point.

    if you are in the RIGHT position in the first place you don't have to make lunging challenges do you?

    mr adam was simply made look stupid by spurs as he'd lose his position and wandered round ball watching we never got our midfield starting position right on sunday and spurs walked through us with a few easy passes. its that simple, work the position, track the runners and then make yourself available for a pass when your side as it.

    but you need to be fitter for that don't you?
     
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  19. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    His fitness is a problem, he needs to sharpen up and be able to last 90 mins.
     
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  20. BCR

    BCR Well-Known Member

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    When you learn how to defend when you are a young player ( at least for me), the Coach always, or should, say that sliding/lunging/jumping in is a last last resort and your footwork and positioning should be your tools to win the ball effectively. Guys like Maldini knew when to stand players up, where to be, and when a slide was necessary.

    I know that example was for a defender, not a midfielder, but the rule still applies.
     
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