General Election 2019

Please repeat this until our resident numpty gets the message - and actually debates the facts.

 

I was just passing on a view from the street.

 

Despite the BBC packing tonight's audience with whinging lefties Boris came away completely unscathed, which is much more than can be said about Corbyn. The feeling among the public is Labour's manifesto plans are unaffordable and undesirable.

 

I was about to say the same thing.

 

Four non committed voters sat here and all agreed that Johnson had a disaster. Corbyn came out best, with the two ladies in their own way competent, but Johnson when faced with real people looks and sounds shifty.

 

Those strange men in the queue keep following you around

 

Read around and you will find that my comment has hit the spot. It was terrible from him.

 

So all the stats disprove it, from neutral sources (maths don't have political views).

Are you still peddling the line that Labour caused the global financial crash?

 

Don't believe everything you read in the Guardian. This was Boris's to lose but he did OK. There appears to be no turnaround in Labour's fortunes.

 

I don't recall pedalling that line and no they did not. Financial institutions caused it by not sticking to sensible policies and financial controls, goverments across the world failed to spot this and control it.

I have to say that Gordon Brown was one of the few who had any idea how to deal with the problem.

 

Not a dissimilar result, though SNP not mentioned. Clique! Clique!

Take the test SH, and publish!

 

Crap game, crap result, the only two things that have rescued the weekend is the thought of Silva getting the sack and the Tories opening up a 19-point lead according to the Guardian.

 

Debate last night.
From Mme Yorkie an apolitical lib Dem voter.
Corbyn and Sturgeon came across as honest with all the facts at their disposal.
Johnson as evasive and defensive and very vague on facts
The lib dems lady... A complete car crash...

 

Labour policy on Brexit appears at the very least to remain in the customs union but much of their manifesto on business and tax appears to be illegal under EU laws. Not sure how they will get round that?

 

It is really very strange that someone who I have met in my travels still thinks that Brexit is a good idea, but intends to vote for the Greens. He reasons that saving the environment is more important than any bribe to give him an extra pound or two. He knows that where he lives it will make little difference to the outcome, but feels that on principle he must. The two main parties are not giving a strong enough lead for him on these issues, and in any case he doesn't believe either of them.

 

I have just done the iSideWith.com test, and come out with the following:
Greens 96%
Labour 94%
LibDem 94%
Tory 48%
Brexit 45%

Some of the questions I found a bit too yes or no, but it is a fair selection of options.

 

How the **** is 46% of me Tory?

88% Green, same for Labour.

 

I think we are all concerned about the environment and I am sure we try to be green and every little bit helps but I am sorry the "Green" party is not the answer as they have morphed into another left wing outfit.

We really need world leaders to bite the bullet and incentivise on a massive scale things that will really make a difference such as hydrogen fuel cells, other renewable energy sources. We also need them to massively help and educate the poorer countries to stop them decimating vital environments such as rain forests, loss of habitats which inevitably results in loss of species. The richer countries need to reinstate environments they have destroyed. Individuals to consume less and be far less wasteful of everything. Education is making our kids get it a bit, although they are bombarded with marketing which makes them want, us oldies could do better.

Some of this is already going on behind the scenes and not generally known, whether it is going to be enough and in time, who knows. It is the Entrepreneurs and businesses that are driving this and the likes of the greens would damage a lot of this with their socialist policies.

Much of this good stuff does not get mentioned in the popular media which is obsessed by plastic (quite rightly) and other flavour of the month environmental fashions.

Above all we need to control the population globally.

 

A lot of what you say I can agree with Scully, but I don't have the faith that entrepreneurs will be sufficient to lead us away from the disaster that could befall the world. We can all do our little bit, which many of us try to do, but we know full well that that is not enough. How do my efforts impact on saving the rain forests that are the lungs of the planet? We have a earth that has has been giving us materials from inside it and on top of it for years, and business has been exploiting oil, gas, trees and palm oil to mention some. This is now too big to leave to individuals who are wanting to make further profit from it. What is needed is countries to form alliances to get a grip of the problems, but while we have people like Trump who denies that there is a problem, and the Tories who only see it as an opportunity to create work in the UK for companies carrying out insulation work, the global situation continues to deteriorate. It is more than obvious that some want the UK to be little more than an extension of the USA, just about the last thing that anyone who cares about where we live should want.