Off Topic OLOF's political thread

Two completely different things, I learnt calculus and differentiation at secondary school as a 15 year old, but no way was I mature enough to vote.[/QUOTE]
You're missing the point. I gave just a couple of examples of how much children have developed educationally. That is clearly without doubt. If they have that capacity to learn complexity like this, why do you think it doesn't apply to politics, and their hopes for the future? I personally was very active politically at the age of 12, and my core values haven't changed, just like my level of disappointment in politicians.

 

That is the point I am making, they learn complex subjects easily because they are not mentally mature.It's easy at that age you are told something and it just sinks in. To take it to the extreme, you are a child in full time education and your history teacher is a communist, every lesson is taught with a bias to how good communism has been throughout history. Then a GE is called and off you trot to the polling station with your class mates with how good communism is ringing in all your ears. I have just picked communism it works just the same with a right wing teacher.
I also doubt the "modern kids are more mature at a younger age" approach, physically they definitely are, but I'm not so sure about mentally. Look at how many teenagers are depressed these days over things like not having as many friends on social media as their peers, not getting enough likes to selfie they have posted............the list goes on and on. In my grand parents and parents time at that age they were fighting wars and not moaning as much.
I can't believe you have been in politics for that amount of time and still fall the SNP line

 

Well said

 

See the trouble is once they get old they lose the ability to embrace new technology, new ideas, new models of social behavior because they are not mentally flexible. They say you can't teach an old dog new tricks so when a GE is called they just trot to the polling station with their outdated biases and prejudices all ringing in their ears. I mean look at how many older people witter on about wars they didn't fight in whilst moaning that younger people are not fighting wars, they seem to spend most of their time screaming snowflake at any passing cloud...

 

Not sure if that's aim at me, if it is you should have spent more time learning how to read and understand at school.

 

Once again massive assumptions from this you appear to live a vary narrow life

 

I must admit I can't work out if he is a WUM or just thick, it's a close call.

 

So what you're actually saying is that your impression about the maturity of 16yo's is correct & mine is not. You have provided zero facts, zero measurement methodologies, and zero examples, but still insist your view is the only correct one. So perhaps you could tell us the building blocks you use to make your assessment. Go on, enlighten us, or is it really an impression based on an impression?

Btw, the word 'Thatcherite' springs to mind.

 

I’ve been thinking along those lines myself
Favourite has to be a WUM nobody can be that thick. Can they

 

Have you considered that it might be that he is not thick - that you are perhaps too thick to understand his intelligence?

Based on 'if someone told you the secret of life, would you actually understand what they were telling you to know whether it was true or not?'

 

No what I am saying is my opinion, and just because it differs to yours you feel the need to get on your high horse over it.
I'd sooner be accused of being a thatcherite than admit to being an SNP member

 

If we found out you were infiltrating the SNP, you'd be hung, drawn & quartered!

Did a quick Google. Have a read at what some of the experts say. It may surprise you.

https://learningenglish.voanews.com/a/are-16-17-mature-enough-to-vote/3247882.html

And it's not a high horse - I've come down to your level!

 

Well I don’t understand his level of intelligence if that’s what we are talking about more to the point was his massive assumptions on what people think and what motivates them to think the way they do

 

As there are less than (I think) 10 countries world wide that allow under 18's to vote in national elections, surely this means that more experts disagree with the link you posted than agree.

 

Or perhaps 2 pennth was just right in the first place.

 

By all means present their findings then. We're all on tenterhooks!

 

What findings, I just quoted a fact, that the vast majority of countries do not allow under 18's to vote in a national election.

 

Good try.

It was the bit that followed .... "surely this means that more experts disagree with the link you posted than agree."

Dying to find out what the 'more experts' say. So far, my experts are out-evidencing your experts (i.e. your opinion).

 

What we would like to know is who are your experts, maybe you could give us a link

 

I did, smart arse. Keep up!