Last season was perfectly respectable in terms of our overall performance. We finished in the top four and reached the Champions League final. That's overperforming when compared to our finances. The dip in the second half of that campaign was obvious and appalling, though. We went to ****. As for Pochettino's selections and tactics, I think that we're all capable of holding valid opinions about them. I started out calling his mistakes very early on and sensed that there was a problem just after the January window. That doesn't make me negative, pessimistic or even particularly insightful, it just shows that the performances had changed dramatically. My opinion on the midfield diamond might not be worth much, but when Sissoko is publicly calling it draining? That's different. The new stadium hasn't been damaging, for me. We were crap at Wembley for a while and we're really, really poor away. Beating Ajax and sneaking past City were exceptions to months of diabolical form on the road. We nicked a win against a relegation-bound Fulham in January and now we can't even beat Colchester, who our academy got past. I've criticised our transfer record over the last couple of years, but our squad is still better than that.
Then he needs to change something else. If removing Pochettino isn't the answer, then he has to work out what that answer is. Changing his staff? Changing the players? Bringing in a Director of Football? That's up to him, but this season is close to a write-off already and it's barely November. Something is clearly wrong.
Trying to win is the point and without it you do not have a game. BUT if you follow the American creed of winning is everything and losing is nowhere then you miss the point of the game and you have a lot of misery. Most teams do not win but continue because when they do win they enjoy it even more. Supporters of teams throughout football understand this. We support Spurs one of the elite teams and frankly your position has the whiff of arrogance about it if you compare our position with a supporter of say Queen of the South. They want to see their team win just like we do but they realise that there are limits to their expectations. We support a team of a higher level but we are not Real Madrid so we too have to expect some limitations. Think about it! we play in leagues so that we can meet teams on a par with ourselves and therefore have an exciting game. Watching a team win 9 nil is about as exciting as waiting for a bus. We want to play in the CL because the standard is high it follows that the higher you go the greater the risk of losing for any particular team. So yes winning is important it is the point that drives the game but you need to accept losing with grace as well.
NO but it does mean you will enjoy it even more when we do turn the corner. I watch at the moment waiting and hoping for a good performance when it happens I will be fired up even more. Man United supporters especially the younger ones are beginning to understand just how good Alec Fergusson was because now they realise you have to do things to be the top side it's not just your right.
I support Spurs so obviously don’t expect titles every year as that has never happened in the history of the club. But as you say, Tottenham are an elite side, yet the performances and results are not good enough and they haven’t been for most of 2019, to say I want to see an improvement from that doesn’t make me arrogant or spoilt.
I am not calling you arrogant I am suggesting that we have to remember that we support an elite club and respect people who support teams playing in lower divisions.
Definitely this. Whether thats enjoying winning or enjoying the style of football you play. You cant tell me you have been enjoying the footie (minus the champs league) you have been served up this year. At the very least this season its been terrible
The fact that he hasn't managed anything close to 100 games in his entire career suggest we were right to let him go And that's the point: while it was announced he had an 18-month contract, the reality was it was a six-month contract with the option for a further twelve, hence it was announced he was gone just before the six-month period expired
100 percent agree. Sherwood is not the man and you were right to let him go. I was debating the 100 significant game number ps thinks you need to spot a pattern. I don't think you should sack poch yet as he's been great (i didn't want mourinho to go when he was sending us to relegation) as you should stand by your great managers but at what point and how many games to you say enough.
No he was rightly sacked because he didn't know what he was doing. He should never have been appointed. My whole point is that if you went on results alone he would NOT have been sacked.
Everyone wants to see an improvement. The issue is what if anything needs to change. Most posters on here seem sure that there is some sort of pattern proving that change is needed. But unless you have identified exactly what is wrong there is a good chance that a change will make it worse.
I said that you should never sack a manager on a result sequence. No-one is ever going to wait 100+ games and anything less doesn't have any weight. You need to hire and fire your managers on other criteria.
His final season ended disappointingly but he won Serie A in his first season at a time where Inter were in dominance plus the Supercoppa (their community shield I think) at the start of the following season . He then finished 2nd and 3rd as that was when Juve started their dominance, before getting sacked midway through his fourth season where they were 11th. Then he took over at Juve after Conte and built and improved on the success Conte had. Personally I'd say he's within the top five managers in the game right now.
But most of the time chairmans do sack their managers on a result sequences levy included. If not that then what criteria would you use and over how long does that criteria apply?
I'd say I feel change is needed because not changing things is only seeing us go downwards. Since January we've been in relegation form, if you're looking for a pattern then I'd say poor football has resulted in poor results. Change doesn't guarantee to improve or worsen either way, but it does show a willingness to try and move from a negative scenario to a positive one. By currently persisting with a negative one, that is what has a higher chance of making things worse. Realistically Spurs can't actually get much worse right now, we're closer to relegation than we are to top four and the style of football has been painful.
