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  1. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    As you'll know in the States, tipping is expected. And employers build it into their employers wage structure, which is a ****ty thing to do imo. I'd rather pay one price and see that the employer is getting a fair wage. Then be able to make the decision to tip or not depending on the service and quality etc.
     
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    Exactly. My view is you pay the one price including service and tipping is an additional thank you.
     
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    Not only that, but in professions that can earn tips employers aren't even require to pay minimum wage.

    I think $7.50 per hour is minimum wage at the moment. Wait staff could be earning as little as $2.50 an hour and are expected to supplement that with tips. Your average restraunteur is paying his staff below minimum wage (and doing so legally because service professions can be paid less than it by law).
     
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    Yep, it's really ****ty practice. This is what worries me about leaving the EU and the workers rights that come with it. If we start selling our soul to Trump, what's to stop US companies operating in the UK, implementing their wages structures along with it ?
     
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    Yep, and part of that price is to ensure that employees get a fair wage. Any tips are to reward the staff further for good service. Or they should be anyway.
     
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    It wouldn't happen, we are not a tipping culture and have never been on that level. Brits are a pain in the arse abroad and don't understand tipping. The only way they would get away with that over here is by including the tip % in the bill and then watch it kick-off.
     
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    I always tipped in cash, then it was down to the server what they want to declare to the employer and the tax man.
     
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    One thing i got caught out on in Italy was the owner/employer collecting the bill from the table. I thought fook it, that means the server either will not see it all, or it will be split as a percentage between x, y, z. If i'd known I would have slipped the tip earlier.
     
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    Well I would hope that UK employment law would remain in place as it is and with it the minimum wage structure and workers rights. But since 1997 almost all of our labour rights have been aligned to EU law, such as paid holiday, working time directive etc. It just makes me wonder if in our post brexit clamour to secure a trade deal with Trump, how many of these rights will be shed in a trade off with US companies ?

    There isn't the same tipping culture here as there is in the US, but generally people tip when they go out for a decent meal. A lot of places already include a service charge. I would rather they just include that into the bill so that I know staff are getting paid properly and then leave it up to me whether I want to add an extra tip.
     
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    A lot of places will pool the tips and then share them out when it comes to paying wages. That ensures that staff like Chefs and those who aren't front of house get a fair share of the tips too.
     
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    Mate i was employed well before 1997, and since working from the age of 16, I've always received four weeks hol min. You are reading too many feeds bro.
     
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  12. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    I get 6/7 weeks <diva>
     
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    Is that including bank holidays?
     
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    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Yeah course, but I can work them sometimes n get it back plus OT rate if I want to.
     
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    Just quoting basic UK employment law fella. Nothing to do with feeds. Thankfully we still have decent union representation in the UK, although Thatcher tried her best to destroy it all. So I don't think we'd ever see the very worst excesses of US employment practice in the UK, but I do not trust these ****s in charge at the moment to protect workers rights one bit when US companies come sniffing for our trade, post brexit.
     
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    All our tips go only to FOH staff on a weekly basis. They also get fed and take unused food that wasn't sold.
     
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    You don't share it with the Chefs ?
     
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    No, they do very well.
     
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    That's good if they let you get it back, plus O/T.

    So you must be 27 days hol + 8 BHol - that's the good thing with service rewarding. What i used to get until I changed my job. Older contracts can generally accumulate up to 30 /32 days plus 8 BHol in some jobs.
     
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    Guess it depends on the wage structure. Generally Chefs get paid more than FOH staff, so it's nice to top up FOH staff wages with tips.
     
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