Block 26,which before you say it,i know it's the family enclosure but now i believe the entire chapel end is classed as family enclosure now and i'm pretty sure people don't keep their language down in there,by the way the word that my girlfriend used was sh*t so it wasn't crime of the century.I take my nephew every game and i expect him to hear some industrial language,he's heard most of it at school anyway haha.
I sit in the Chapel and get looks for using language but loads of people use it. I just think people with kids don't like to hear it. The guy in front has a boy of about 8 years old but they didn't turn up until the 2nd half?!
Yeh can understand them not wanting their kids to hear it but most people expect fans to use bad language,if they don't they must be very naive.I know if i didn't want my nephew to hear it i wouldn't take him.
Because I was well brought up I learned that only a cad and a bounder uses foul language around women and children. There is no excuse for if you use foul language around woman and children then you are an ill bred, bad mannered oaf.
It's difficult with the language. In my experience, the family enclosure is no better and often worse than other stands. The thing about swearing is that, whether you do or don't, most of us don't like hearing children doing it. I often swear when with colleagues. I don't swear in front of children, and therefore I don't at football. My son is now almost 15 years old so on one level he has heard it all before. But than it would hardly be a good example if I swore in front of him, let alone the eight year olds who might within earshot. On the other hand, I smile inwardly when I hear some of the chanting and it is undeniably part of football. I suppose that part of the problem is that when somebody 2 rows away is giving the ref a piece of his mind then it's possibly the first time that a young child has heard such aggression.
I hear the chants of course, but there is little swearing in my section of the Kingsland. Mind you we are always winning.
I take my ten year old with me and he knows that there will be bad language and that he shouldn't do it. This however wouldn't stop me from politely saying something if a person right next to us was a bit OTT. At Tranmere last year a lad behind me used the c word. When he did it a second time quickly after, I did ask him to tone it down; he apologised and did tone it down. I love hearing some of he funny chants with bad language, nut with a 10 year old next to me I don't join in.
Impossible for me to get back for games. It is difficult enough just getting to follow each game on the internet as the link keeps being lost. I managed to watch the first three minutes of the leeds game on a live stream until someone decided it was an illegal link and pulled the plug. The only games that ever get featured over here include the so called big four and to most people over here no football exists outside of those few clubs. I am trying to educate them to see beyond those few teams. I hope to be back and see a game in January.
To be honest the C word is unacceptable and shouldn't be used in public,i heard a few using it at ipswich and i cringed but i didn't feel the need to say anything to anyone because at the end of the day it's not my right to and i go into a football ground expecting a few head cases.The man that said something to my gf wasn't polite about it,more like a school teacher telling one of his pupils off,think this is what got our backs up the most and also the sheer naivity that he thinks he'll go to a football ground and not hear the word sh*t.God for bid he ever goes to an away game,he'll be out the ground in 10 seconds flat!
I'm sorry, i just don't agree with this,especially when you hear women and children swearing! And please don't imply that anyone who swears in front of them is dragged up,me and my gf have manners and are polite to people so just because we might use the occasional swear word out of frustration or anger at something doesn't mean we are bad mannered oafs!
Agree with this comment - here is no excuse to swear in front of women or children - even if its a football match. Used to live near Northampton and followed the Saints [Rugby Union] and you would be thrown out of the ground if caught swearing - impossible to manage now in football, but I remember Brian Clough trying to stop it when managing Nottingham Forest.
Actually yeh i agree with trying not to swear in front of children and definitely don't do it outside of football but sometimes it just slips out at football without even thinking about it,as for not swearing in front of women,they are grown ups you know and some of them can hold there own when it comes to swearing, i know i've heard my fair share of women swearing at matches,dare i say it but it's kind of sexist to say don't swear in front of women,like they need wrapping up in cotton wool.We live in an equal world now you know.
People swearing under pressure doesn't bother me much, though don't like the 'c' word, but I hate to hear people use it continuously in normal speech. Don't have that problem at SMS; it's usually kids in the street.
I know in this day and age you will hear a lot of women giving as good as the men on the swearing front. However I still cannot bring myself to swear in front of a women. To my knowledge I never swore in front of my children when they were home. In fact it would be a very rare occasion that I swore at home at all. Football though for what ever reason brings out the worst in me. I have, I am ashamed to say, called many a referee's parentage into question and the odd manager in the past. If others around me hear me swear they will join in with my two grandchildren sitting in front, as it is a well known retort from them of "Granddad". Although to be fair it doesn't happen so much today as they are much older. Most of my swearing at a football match is restricted to the profanities as mentioned, you will never hear me use the "F" word or the "C" word at a match. Not because I am a prude they are just words that in general are not part of my vocabulary, the "C" word never has been and never will. So I think people have got to warn their youngsters that they are likely to hear some swearing at matches. To be fair though down are end, in our vicinity, it is rare to hear any, even in the darkest moments of Saints recent history, so perhaps we are lucky!!
I have moved seats at away games when with my son, if the language is OTT. I don't moan about it, because I know it happens at matches. I bring him up in what I feel is the correct manner and that involves him knowing he isn't to use swear words, but I don't "hide" him from it or not take him because of it. I swear, but not (usually) in front of the kids, mine or others. I wouldn't speak to someone just becasue they swore; I would if it was really bad, and I felt it appropriate or safe to do so. The songs make it interesting, but my lad thinks Rickie's song is "He gets the ball, he makes it his, he wears the shirt of Matt le Tiss" But to give you an example of having to "live" with it and just make sure your kids understand the rules, he sits next to his Grandad who's favourite song is "we're coming for you" ...
I agree swearing will always happen at football as it is fully emotional. However I do take my sons in the chapel to try and minimize it. We moved ST seats from one side of chapel to another last year because four chaps behind kept using C word and racial stuff. I think they should come down to the main culprits that say F and C continuously in the family centre. When I dont take my son to footy I usually go in the Northam and swear with the best of them. Its about respect at the end of the day. Not swearig in front of women and kids is an old tradition that if was still about today I would welcome it. The fact it doesnt indicates lack of respect across the board. And believe it or not walking back to the car my four year old just said un prompted "****ing hell" for no reason. He has never said it before. I wonder where he picked the word up from. All that said, when we go to away games you have to live with it.
I did let out a loud "f-ing hell" at one stage yesterday, much to the chagrin of the little fellas sat next to me.... please log in to view this image
