You're right Ellers, the Tory 2017 election campaign was woeful and is at the bottom of all the delays and indecision. Boris will be a better campaigner. Corbyn looks a shell and out of ideas.
Blame May? It was Boris who sacked off a load of his MPs to lose the majority. Slender though it was, Mays government still had a majority with the DUP on board. As for the SNP, they are taking full advantage of the clusterfuck down in Westminster. Just had a Party Political Broadcast on up here tonight for them, with a load of Boris-bashing - he's an easy target...... Latest polling up here has it at 50/50 for independance, but I think the SNP membership are over-eager for IndyRef2, whilst the leadership is being more cautious. Of course, no government (be it Tory, Labour or Lib-Dem) will want to grant it, but it may be the price one of them have to pay to get into power at the GE. I'd prefer not to have another IndyRef, it was quite divisive last time (although nothing on the lines of Brexit), and I'm not convinced with the SNPs vision, and if the they thought the border issue in NI was an issue, then **** knows how they sort out the England/Scotland border if an independant Scotland wants to re-join the EU.....
not enough food labelling out there Villiers confirms Government will not be labelling meat from non-stun slaughter She said she thought it was ‘important for people to be able to follow their faith’. please log in to view this image Lauren Dean Lauren kicked off her print journalism career with Farmers Guardian shortly after graduating from the University of Leeds Theresa Villiers has said the Government will not introduce labelling on meat from non-stun slaughter. The Defra Secretary said the Government opposed restrictions on non-stun slaughter and that she ‘would not have supported’ amendments to the Agriculture Bill, proposed earlier in the year, which would have required the labelling of non-stun meat. She said she thought it was ‘important for people to be able to follow their faith’. In a letter to Ms Villiers, The National Secular Society (NSS) urged the Government to end the religious exemption which allows non-stun slaughter, or short of that to introduce labelling requirements and prohibit the export of non-stun meat. It said her position seemed to ‘accept that the economic viability of the kosher industry is dependent on non-stun meat being allowed to slip into the general food chain’. please log in to view this image Share This please log in to view this image BVA continues to push for reforms to non-stun slaughter practices in the UK please log in to view this image Meat processors accuse George Eustice of double standards on halal slaughter NSS chief executive Stephen Evans said: “It is concerning to see a Secretary of State for environment, food and rural affairs prioritising religious interests over improving animal welfare and providing consumers with accurate information about the products they are buying.” The Government was recently accused of double standards on halal slaughter following a call by Farming Minister George Eustice that stunning immediately post-cut in religious slaughter should be encouraged, particularly in cattle. ‘Contentious area’ The Association of Independent Meat Suppliers said this was despite Defra having prevented a large number of halal slaughterers from adopting the practice due to its insistence of the ’20 second rule’ for sheep. In July Mr Eustice called for a free vote on religious non-stun slaughter, following what he said had been ‘an alarming rise’. It followed his exclusive admission to Farmers Guardian that the UK was ‘lagging behind’ the rest of the developed world in terms of its regulation on religious slaughter, predominantly due to a Government tendency to ‘shy away from change’ in a ‘contentious area’. While the British Veterinary Association (BVA) has been campaigning for an end to non-stun slaughter, it said clearer labelling was essential if slaughter without stunning was still to be permitted. Senior vice president Simon Doherty said: “Clearer labelling […] enables all consumers to make informed choices about the food that they buy and eat. “We are also advocating a number of other pragmatic asks including matching supply and demand, post-cut stunning and a ban on the export of non-stun meat.”
Yeah clearly May made Boris sack them And make the desire for an election pointless for the opposition
Corbin is being pushed out and pressured in to a losers vote. Let's hope he sticks by his principles for once. It's been a remain stitch up all along. They will not have a GE even if Boris accepts an extension. They will opt for the losers vote first. Even as we discuss some are plotting if he returns empty handed that it will be Mays deal v remain. These are the sort of fanatics we are dealing with. They will push it too far and the people will say enough.
Compromised you say? Your every other word seems to be about a Losers vote and referring to all Remainers, Sorry Remoaners as fanatics as well.
Exactly the SNP are hypothetical. TBH the 21 stood on a manifesto and then went against it and their own party and deserved to lose the whip. I have said all along and it was reinforced by someone on TV tonight. This is about democracy (Brexit or not). My only voice is through the ballot box. The MPs job is to respect my vote. They voted to have a referendum, they said they would respect the outcome and it's their job to implement it. Otherwise they are taking away my only say. We are not some banana republic and we need to respect the biggest vote in our history or it will change this country forever. Said before I thought Blair was @@@@ but I respected his win. Like we have in every other vote. Sadly we have a group of people hell bent on not respecting it. They cannot and will not prevail.
I agree there ellers. Anyone who goes against their own party should be sacked on the spot......if only May had carried that same threat then we wouldnt have the Hulk and reece twat about!
Yes I have. I wanted a clean break and my compromise was to accept the Boris deal so we could all move forward. Sadly there are fanatics that are playing games to stop Brexit. If you can't see it or don't believe it you are deluded. I will say however if they continue to act the way they are, I see a no deal, surrender act or not. Saying all this, if the EU have any sense, they would send Boris packing hoping that the fanatics here take over... Which they could do. However the public would turn on them because fortunately there are still some democrats in this country that respect the result.
Nicholas Fortescue III@FortescueIIIN 51m51 minutes ago Follow Follow @FortescueIIIN By calling Brexiteer's "racist" and nonsense like that it devalues REAL racism that the England players are currently facing! Disgusting #BULENG please log in to view this image
I saw that today. He is a boring little @@@@ anyway and is only there to disrupt parliament. The SNP should sit outside.
The tories are taking us back to medieval times by breaking up the union and some fanatics revel in it. Makes me ashamed to be English sometimes. They will want to bring back slavery next! .....saying that, I could probably do with a couple
God I do hope the Patriots stop this brexit fiasco. But I reckon the Hulk might just get a more pathetic deal through than what May's was. How very very strange the people are
Brexit or not, an economic day of reckoning is coming for Ireland - Brian Monteith please log in to view this image Irish leader Leo Varadkar and UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson please log in to view this image Brian Monteith Published: 06:00 Monday 14 October 2019 The Irish economy is not the miracle that is often portrayed. Yes, its GDP per capita is a highly impressive $78,800, compared to the EU average of $41,000 or the UK’s $43,000 – but it is a phantom economy achieved by rerouting the sales of multinationals across the whole EU into Ireland and crediting it as Irish GDP. This is not because of the attractive corporation tax rate of only 12.5 per cent – as myth would have it – but because the Irish Government allows generous tax allowances and financial engineering that reduces the effective rate to between 3-4 per cent. A new and detailed report by banking and finance consultant Bob Lyddon and City economic strategist Ewen Stewart, published this week by the Brexit think tank Global Britain, builds on past highly reputable academic studies and the Irish Government’s own official statistics to show the industrial scale of legal Celtic corporate tax avoidance. It demonstrates the claim of Ireland’s GDP at 294 billion Euros is hugely inflated by the Irish “flag of convenience” that multinationals use. Were it to end the Irish people would face another bout of severe austerity required to adjust to the genuine size of the economy – a staggering 130 billion Euros per year smaller. By offering unusually generous tax write-offs, such as aviation leasing that results in 70 per cent of the world’s civil aircraft registered in Ireland even if in their entire life they never land or take of from there – many multinationals base their EU HQs around Dublin It is far better for Ireland to receive 3-4 per cent of something than 12.5 per cent of nothing because the tax revenues still amount to a significant amount. Together, the additional revenues from the corporate services required to support the brass plate operation and the taxes of the employees dependent on the entirely legal scam keep Ireland’s public finances sustainable. Were they to dwindle the country would suffer an economic crash. And why does it suit the EU – which claims to be a “rules based system” – to allow this corporate tax avoidance on a grand scale to continue? For one thing Ireland is not the only member state practicing it. Luxembourg, the Netherlands and other smaller countries offer similar low tax and generous allowance regimes to multinational corporations. The other is the EU is indeed moving towards ending such flag of convenience arrangements as part of its desire to create an ever-closer federalised United States of Europe. Creating a standard corporate rate across the whole EU will move up the Commission’s agenda once Brexit is dealt with. The introduction of a common currency, a flag, and an anthem were no mere coincidence. Creating more and more common laws and expanding spending on military infrastructure twenty-twofold in the new draft budget is already happening. When conformity of tax rates arrives, as it eventually shall, so must come conformity of allowances to offset against the tax – and the Irish economy will go into a tailspin. Brexit represents a genuine existential threat to Ireland’s economic business model because once the UK leaves the EU it will immediately be able to repatriate all the turnover of multinationals that is currently re-routed to Ireland and tax it at the UK rates. The days of leviathans such as Apple, Google, Amazon and the rest paying practically no corporate tax in the UK will end with the knock-on effect of denying the Irish Government those revenues to finance its unsustainable public finances. This fiscal and financial revolution will be in clear sight of the remaining EU members who will not be slow to conclude it will be in their interests to close down the loopholes that allow Ireland’s flag of convenience operations. Bob Lyddon estimates the UK loses some £10 billion of tax revenues to Ireland per annum and claims this to be a conservative estimate, as it is calculated using only the largest companies and does not take account of the additional revenues that would come from the direct and indirect jobs that would return as HQs were re-established in the UK. Those opposed to Brexit point to the need to secure the alleged higher regulatory standards of the single market that prevent such modern-day processing as chlorine-washed chicken, warning such goods entering the UK could find their way into Ireland and then the other twenty-seven member states. This weaponising of the Irish border is wilfully disingenuous. Northern Ireland’s trade to Ireland represents only five per cent of its total exports, while monitoring the movement of specific foods that are already subject to a large raft of checks and processes for a relatively small sector is not beyond the wit of man and digital technology. Nor does it recognise EU double-standards where other foods such as lettuces are chlorine-washed without the hysteria and faux-alarm that US chicken attracts. Even less likely to be admitted are the repeated failures in single market food hygiene that exposes the criticism of porous borders as no more than mendacious deflections by EU vested interests. It was, after all, in Ireland that the original horsemeat in burgers scandal of 2013 originated – and it was the collapse of standards in the Netherlands that led to the Friponil egg scandal in 2017 when millions of eggs were destroyed and 3.5 million chickens slaughtered. The single market is no guarantee of higher standards and is often used as a means to prevent competition and the introduction of new processes that will benefit consumers. The creation of the “backstop” has had more to do with trapping the UK into regulatory and tax alignment with the EU’s Single Market and Customs Union than maintaining food standard integrity – or respecting the Good Friday Agreement that barely mentions the EU or borders at all. The backstop and regulatory alignment – or better still, preventing Brexit altogether – would benefit Ireland by delaying EU tax harmonisation and closing its flag of convenience operation. The UK’s interests are better served by repatriating multinational turnover and reaping the tax revenues and jobs that can only come from leaving the EU. By conceding any ground the Prime Minister only postpones Ireland’s economic day of reckoning and denies Britain of reclaiming the revenues and jobs that are rightfully ours.
