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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

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    As soon as we get a deal or we walk, I like many, will move on. Agree I will be interested in what happens but I wont bother discussing it much on here. I do have a life. I will let others go around in circles. :)
     
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    Stuck a toe back in the water, got it bitten off and ran away.
     
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    How have I got a toe bitten off? I have just entered Groundhog Day! You still sound like a bitter old referendum loser that cannot accept a result and still craves after the unelected Corbyn. Bob is,...well bob.
    Still the same old crap being posted, nothing has changed however I have compromised by supporting a deal that I probably won’t be 100% happy with but unlike some I will respect a democratic vote. I don’t run away from anything (except a bull with horns and a snake) I just have other things in my life that are more important than reading ramblings on the politics thread.
     
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    No one's forcing you mate.
     
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    :emoticon-0148-yes: I know I’m chilled about it all.
     
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    Bloody good to hear Ellers. We do go round in circles and it's all been a load of ****e from the beginning. Reminds me of when we bought Ned Zelic, if only we could have changed our minds!
     
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    I did that once in a game in France in a friendly following a earlier bust up with our keeper ... still remember my celebration in silence but I got decked by our centre half just after

    Great memories we had played a full on Saturday evening game the day before which we lost 3-1 however the post match do went on right through the night and we were all out of it ... went direct to the friendly from that venue. One of our players was tied onto a roof rack and missed the second match completely!

    What a tour that was 1995
     
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    Is he still up there?
     
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    no but it was very funny we knew he was still alive because once in a while he was sick on my windscreen.

    really funny memory still talked about today amongst mates ... we all got home 3 days late and within the year I was divorced

    it referred to as the Victor Le Meccier who was our tour manager at the time and was the French national team physio at the time
     
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    Good old Jezza, a leaver till the end.
     
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    Sturgeon: Corbyn must back indyref2 for SNP votes

    Nicola Sturgeon has told Jeremy Corbyn not to "bother picking up the phone" to ask the SNP to put him in government unless he backs an independence vote.

    The Scottish first minister said she was in favour of removing Boris Johnson from office and holding an election.

    But she said her backing for a future "progressive alliance" government relied on a deal to hold a referendum.

    Ms Sturgeon also said she would seek UK government consent this year to hold a new independence vote.

    'Right to choose'
    Mr Corbyn has said he does not think a new independence poll is "a good idea", but has not ruled out allowing one.

    Ms Sturgeon wants to hold a new vote in the second half of 2020, but has yet to ask UK ministers for the required "section 30" request to allow it.

    She said it was not yet clear who the prime minister would be at that point.

    She told the BBC's Andrew Marr programme that she would be willing to oust the Conservatives in favour of a "progressive-type alliance", but warned Mr Corbyn to not "even bother picking up the phone to me" unless he accepted "Scotland's right to choose our own future".

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-50013578
     
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    Jezza killed off that idea of a losers vote this morning. Good old Jezza!
     
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    it would be so much better under the command of Verhodstadt, Tusk and the Drunk
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    not interested in the individuals not many in Europe are over here in the UK the sheep chose political leaders on something called personality

    The EU actually works and don’t care what robots run it. The amazing thing is that the sheep actually believe it’s corrupt and can’t see exactly how poor the UK system is.

    anyone on here try and name a major achievement that the UK has delivered recently? Seriously?

    The EU delivers every time imo

    Trust the UK ****er politics with their own money and decisions... not for me
     
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  17. kiwiqpr

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    UK on track to avoid recession despite Brexit chaos
    Growth is weak but strong summer for services and a TV-film industry boom lifts quarterly figures
    Richard Partington Economics correspondent
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    Thu 10 Oct 2019 17.19 BST First published on Thu 10 Oct 2019 11.33 BST
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      The ONS says GDP rose 0.3% in the summer quarter, despite a 0.1% drop in August. Photograph: Oli Scarff/AFP via Getty Images
      Britain is on track to avoid a recession despite mounting Brexit uncertainty after official figures showed an unexpectedly strong jump in economic growth over the summer.
      The Office for National Statistics said gross domestic product had risen by 0.3% in the three months to the end of August, beating the forecasts of City economists, helped by the strength of the services sector and a boom in TV and film production across the country.
      Against a backdrop of mounting political chaos, economists said the latest snapshot showed that while economic growth remained weak, Britain was likely to avoid its first recession since the financial crisis. Fears of a technical recession – two consecutive quarters of contraction – had been raised when data published in August showed the economy had unexpectedly contracted in the second quarter, by 0.2%. Official growth figures for the third quarter are expected in early November.
      Ian Stewart, chief economist at the accountancy firm Deloitte, said: “The economy has regained some momentum but the underlying trend is towards softer growth. The headwinds from a major global slowdown and uncertainty at home point to weaker growth ahead.”
      In a sign of weakness in the economy, GDP contracted by 0.1% in August as activity in the dominant service sector stalled and factory output plunged as the Brexit deadline nears with little sign of a deal with Brussels.
      However, the ONS cautions that single-month growth rates can paint an unreliable picture of economic strength, as they can be prone to revision as more data from the economy becomes available over time. Growth in both June and July was revised up by the ONS by 0.1 percentage points, lifting the three-month rate.
      The ONS said GDP would need to plunge by at least 1.5% in September for the economy to contract in the third quarter. Such falls are considered extreme and rare, with comparable drops recorded only twice in the past 20 years.
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      Gross domestic product (GDP) measures the total value of activity in the economy over a given period of time.
      Put simply, if GDP is up on the previous three months, the economy is growing; if it is down, it is contracting. Two or more consecutive quarters of contraction are considered to be a recession.
      GDP is the sum of all goods and services produced in the economy, including the service sector, manufacturing, construction, energy, agriculture and government. Several key activities are not counted, such as unpaid work in the home.
      The ONS uses three measures that should, in theory, add up to the same number.
      • The value of all goods and services produced – known as the output or production measure.
      • The value of the income generated from company profits and wages – known as the income measure.
      • The value of goods and services purchased by households, government, business (in terms of investment in machinery and buildings) and from overseas – known as the expenditure measure.
      Economists are concerned with the real rate of change of GDP, which accounts for how the economy is performing after inflation.
      Britain's government statistics body, the Office for National Statistics, produces GDP figures on a monthly basis about six weeks after the end of the month. It compares the change in GDP month on month, as well as over a three-month period.
      The ONS warns that changes on the month can prove volatile, preferring to assess economic performance over a three-month period as the wider period can smooth over irregularities.
      The most closely watched GDP figures are for the four quarters of the year; for the three months to March, June, September and December.
      The figures are usually revised in subsequent months as more data from businesses and the government becomes available.
      The ONS also calculates the size of the UK economy relative to the number of people living here. GDP per capita shows whether we are actually getting richer or poorer, by stripping out the impact of population changes. Richard Partington
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      Among the pockets of strength for the economy in the three months to August, the service sector grew by 0.4% after a largely flat period of growth in the previous three months.
      Films, TV and music provided the largest contribution to GDP growth over the period, as one of the strongest performing sectors over the last year, expanding at a faster rate than the services sector as a whole.
      The growth comes after several hits for film and TV production in the UK in recent years, including the BBC hit series Peaky Blinders and Paddington 2. Figures from the UK TV industry trade association Pact show revenues in the sector have risen by 40% since 2008 to £3bn last year, with help from drama commissions as well as Netflix and Amazon series.
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      Factory output fell by 1.1% in the three months to June, in a sign of continuing gloom for manufacturers. The ONS said car production was gradually bouncing back from a slump in April when manufacturers brought forward their shutdowns around the original March Brexit date as a precaution, although it warned the longer-term picture was for weakening growth in production.
      The construction industry barely grew in the three months to August, with output rising by 0.1%, helped by the building of new homes, after a 0.9% slide in the three months to July.
      The National Institute of Economic and Social Research (NIESR), Britain’s oldest independent economic research organisation, is forecasting growth of 0.5% in the third quarter and 0.3% in the final three months of the year.
      Such a growth rate would be consistent with the economy expanding by 1.3% for the year as a whole, down slightly from 1.4% in 2018 and 1.9% in 2017, in a reflection of a weaker pace of growth since the Brexit vote and as the world economy slows.
      Garry Young, director of macroeconomic modelling and forecasting at NIESR, said:Despite better than expected GDP data, the underlying pace of growth in the UK is slow.”
     
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    Labour £650,000 in red as members desert party
    Kate Devlin, Chief Political Correspondent
    October 12 2019, 12:01am, The Times
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    Jeremy Corbyn said earlier this week that his party was “ready” for a general electionDARREN STAPLES/GETTY IMAGES
    Labour lost more than half a million pounds last year, official figures show, amid fears among its MPs that it is ill-prepared for a general election.
    The party suffered a shortfall of £655,000 in 2018, compared with a surplus of £1.45 million the previous year, according to Labour’s annual report.
    The loss was caused in part by rising staff numbers and a dip in membership. In August it was revealed that 45,784 people had left the party in the year to December 2018, leaving it with just above 518,000 members.
    Earlier this week Jeremy Corbyn, the Labour leader, said that his party was “ready” for a general election. Mr Corbyn, who has twice ordered Labour MPs to vote against an election,
     
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    bathtime in brussels
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    how much goes to the rest of europe
     
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