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Time For Grayson To Go

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ristac, Sep 17, 2011.

  1. Whiteyorkist

    Whiteyorkist Active Member

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    It would be nice, but that would also be too easy! Maybe Kissa been suspended could be a blessing in disguise, bring in Lees at CB and see how he goes.
     
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  2. bluememe

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    When have you ever heard of a new signing been thrown straight into the starting 11 when he was only brought in for added depth?
    We aren't a dirty side. I'm a Season Ticket Holder and most of the cards given to us are unjustified. From what I could see today's red card was the only red card of the season that was justified.
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    Rubbish We aren't a dirty side?

    We have one the worst bad discipline record in the league!

    4 sending offs in 7 games!!!
    Only one today was right? You are wrong because most was 2 cards not 1. If a player is booked then he can not jump in and that is what they still do.
     
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  3. Leeds United Super Sub

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    An opinion is an opinion, but I'm that confident with me opinion it's 99% fact, and I'm sure many people will agree with this.

    Jonny Howson v Middlesborough
    2nd booking a clear dive
    Max Gradel v Middlesborough
    First tackle was just mistimes, only a few minutes into the game, 99% of referee's would tell him to calm down,
    Aidan White v Ipswich
    Foul on Aidy caused him to fall to the floor and clip the strikers ankles as he went down.
     
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  4. bluememe

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    An opinion is an opinion, but I'm that confident with me opinion it's 99% fact, and I'm sure many people will agree with this.
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    How is that fact when the stats say we have one the worst discipline record in the league?
    There is no discipline with Grayson.

    It was a dive? Wtf he pulled him down because he was away at goal he had no reson to go down. It was the right second yellow card and right decision. It does not matter if the first one was right or not.

    I agree with the max first card but again it does no matter because you can not jump in like he did and not get booked!!

    Aidan White was all ready booked and they turned down after game and the card stands so it was right.
     
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  5. Leeds United Super Sub

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    "How is that fact"
    Bless wasn't you educated? I said "My opinion is practically fact because that many people will agree with the fact 3 were the wrong decision".
    Every football fan PISSED THEMSELVES LAUGHING at Howson's 2nd booking. It was the most blatent dive ever. Watch it as you clearly haven't.
    White's appeal was turned down but that's because they have a policy that they want to try and stick by the referee's decision. If the referee saw it and at the time thought it was a red, and all linesmen agreed then they'll stand by it.
    Meme, you really are a Class A egit.
     
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  6. bluememe

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    We have the 2end worst discipline in this league. Only team worse then us is pompy.

    Even if you take away the red cards we still have most y cards with 15 booked

    You talk rubbish.
     
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  7. ellandback

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    T H A N K G O O O D N E S S ! ! ! Common sense
     
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  8. lifecheshirewhite

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    Anyone who goes the games could never call us dirty,not a bad foul all game.
    ristac,yes your entitled to your opinion but unless you go the games its like a blind man describing how good looking a person on the TV is.
    You also complain that a player with 2 hours training isn't put straight in the side to play with players he doesn't even know yet.
    Maybe you should do a bit more research before making ill judged comments.
     
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  9. MarkoLUFC

    MarkoLUFC Well-Known Member

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    The FA will uphold any decision made by a referee who claims he had clear sight of it and made the decision based on what he saw, regardless of how pathetically bad the decision was with hindsight. So the appeal argument is invalid.
     
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  10. King-Cellino-Is-God

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    Why do football fans have such short memories? think pre Grayson
    Loss to Histon
    2 promotion failures (failure to Doncaster is just embarrassing probably more so than Histon)
    Prutton, Douglas, Rui, Kandol ect
    League One
    During Grayson
    half a season and we reach play offs, next season promoted
    brought in Gradel, 200k, made Howson and Snoddy more regular, Andy Lonergan 200k
    Sold a arrogant goalkeeper who after 6 or so penalties didn't save one, on a one year contract for £1m and brought a better or at least equal one for 200k who saved his first penaltie
    1 place of play offs in first season after promotion

    I can't believe we are even discussing whether we should keep Simon Grayson, he has been our best manager in over a decade (I aren't including David O'Leary because he fails unless he has millions and millions to work with, e.g Villa). Why aren't Doncaster, Bristol City, Coventry ect managers above Grayson, poor poor bookies and journalists like how the suggested Leeds would fail in the championship if we didn't replace Beckford, so be brought in Paynter and a player who was already at our club (Becchio) was our best striker, journalists and bookies know f*ck all about Leeds and will continue to print and publish ****e about us, Grayson isn't going to be sacked, 1 because he is ****ing awsome and 2 because Ken Bates doesn't make knee jerking decisions based on journalistic bull**** or bull**** from our OWN FANS. Shame on you who ask for Grayson Head ):
     
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  11. ristac

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    Define dirty I guess, worse yellow and red card record by a mile, come on, you honestly believe so many yellow and reds are undeserved. Records speak for themselves, we have the worst discipline and I believe a cause of that is the inability to defend which then puts players under pressure.

    I have seen us play three times this season, if you win 3-0 it doesn't mean you need great vision to know you scored three goals and won the game by three goals. If you have 4 red card and 17 yellows you don't need to have great vision to know that is bad.

    You are missing the point, (oh and just for the record O'Dea he was thrown straight in and I could pick out many more) the point is we have been looking at positions we don't yet need to fill.

    For 18 months or more, probably 2 years we have been desperate for some decent defenders, Grayson has not addressed this. He hasn't addressed our terrible defence yet he has time to trial and look at midfielders and strikers that are nice to have but it isn't a problem position that needs fixing.

    Grayson stated we sold Kasper as his priority was fixing the defence, forget is he isn't he better than Lonergran, the fact is he wasn't the worse of the back 5. Lonergran wasn't first choice replacement, we sold Kasper and panic set in as we had no replacement.

    It was poorly managed, we still haven't plugged the gaps at the back it is not good enough. I have no problem with Mika not being thrown straight in, I was making a laboured point and a sarcastic comment regarding why is Grayson spending time looking at non priority positions when every ounce of spare energy on the training field and in the transfer market should be spent looking at improving the defence.
     
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  12. lifecheshirewhite

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    I have seen us play three times this season, if you win 3-0 it doesn't mean you need great vision to know you scored three goals and won the game by three goals. If you have 4 red card and 17 yellows you don't need to have great vision to know that is bad.
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    Its a fact that Leeds are one of,if not the most hated club in the country.So it stands to reason,most refs have a dislike of Leeds.This leads us into not getting the benefit of any doubt,always been the case since the 70's.
     
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  13. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member
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    Sorry I am not buying into that one, most of the refs were probably not into football in 1970. I just did a quick search for Graham Salisbury started refereeing in 1985 aged 44 he would have been 3 years old in 1970. I love Leeds I say it as I see it and it so annoys me when fans cry that we are unlucky and we are so disliked. You can't blame red and yellow cards being received because we were not liked 40 years ago!!
     
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  14. lifecheshirewhite

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    Didn't say we were hated just 40 years ago,we have been hated for 40 years.(big difference)We still are hated by most fans.nearly every club we play sing we all hate Leeds s--m.Only man u are hated as much.
     
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  15. Leeds United Super Sub

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    I think I just did my daily workout reading that post, please learn English it will make all our lives easier...
    Also what is "Prutton, Douglas, Rui, Kandol ect" meant to mean.
    That they were all crap players? Because if so YOU have the short memory. Once Naylor came in him and Marques were VERY solid. Marques had a bad patch that was all, and was actually a good defender, as most will agree the African Cup of Nations effected his form, probably a lack of fitness. Kandol could bang them in left right and centre and it was only his attitude that meant that we got rid of him. Prutton and Douglas were also part of a quality Leeds side that played more attractive football than most Championship sides, the only reason they were surplus to requirements by Grayson was because he wanted us to play a different style of football. You can't play fancy football in League One like Macca wanted us too.
     
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  16. BoggersMOT

    BoggersMOT Well-Known Member

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    Spot on kebab. 2 wins out of the last 2 games. Kisnorbo took one for the team. We coped with 10 players. Ignore Tuesday. If we can get something out of Friday, we'll be in the playoffs. Becchio's back. We have another holding midfield to push Clayton * Howson. All in all, a decent weekend
     
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  17. lifecheshirewhite

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    Prutton worked hard but didn't have enough ability,Kandol scored goals but was lazy,Rui and Douglas were just above av league 1 players.Bates has sold our best player + Kasper.Grayson has brought in Lonergan,Clayton,Somma,McCormack,Nunez,etc give him some credit even Donny spent more than us.
     
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  18. Leeds United Super Sub

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    You just repeated what I said about Kandol basically, scored goals bad attitude.
    Prutton and Douglas were good enough for us in League One, so was Rui, just not at NPC level.
     
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    u talk ****e----piss off
     
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    if we stick by him ----wot centuary we get promoted then ---einstein
     
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