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Off Topic OLOF's political thread

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by MIGHTY, Oct 1, 2017.

  1. milkyboy

    milkyboy Well-Known Member

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    estate agents are career liars, and can sniff a pork pie a mile off
     
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  2. dbc

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    I'll pass on the ****ing you, with or without a baguette.

    As I said in the post these are day to day tangible benefits as opposed to the bigger stuff like access to the biggest Free Trade market in the world.

    But as you've demonstrated comedy is not your forte maybe you could instead offer some tangible day to day benefits of leaving?
     
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    Cant argue with that, good call
     
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    2020VisionofLeeds Well-Known Member

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    I had a baguette from Pret A Manger today that tasted a bit off. I’m now rather worried as to the possible cause.
     
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  5. FORZA LEEDS

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    The Benefits of Leaving the EU

    We often hear much wailing and doom and gloom from those who, for various personal and mostly self indulgent financial reasons, why we should remain in the EU. These people, who many have big fat EU pensions or receive grants and other hand outs from the EU seem to care little for the democratic will of the British people who, by a majority of 1.4 million, voted to leave the EU on the 23rd June 2016. In fact, from members of the CIB, banking and MPs they are actively doing everything to prevent the promise of honouring the vote to leave the EU - I see them as modern day barbarians hammering at the doors of democracy with the intent of destroying Parliament, our constitution and our very freedom to govern ourselves as a free democratic nation.


    We often hear that leaving the EU will be a disaster, people will lose their jobs, food will be in short supply and much else. One thing we never hear though, is why? Those who predict disaster do not tell us why, what are they basing their depressing predictions on?


    In realty we have to ponder how the UK managed to survive without the EU and become a powerful global trading nation for the best part of a thousand years before we became embroiled in the European community? How did we ever manage to feed ourselves and fight against tyranny in Europe in two world wars, not to forget stopping Napoleon from forming his version of a European Union.

    In fact, if looked at in reality, the UK has much to gain from leaving the EU, not just gaining our democratic right to return to being a self governing independent nation again without the burden of EU imposed laws. People wail that we will lose all the money the EU gives us in structural funds and grants. But whose money is it? There are two big net contributors to the EU's coffers, Germany being the largest followed by the UK, any money the EU gives us is nothing more than a little of our own money back with the EU keeping the rest for itself. Just think how much more we could have to invest in the UK, the NHS, education and pensions if we stopped handing £ billions of UK taxpayers money to the EU.

    Then there is trade, as a free self governing nation once again we can return to global trade under World Trade Rules (WTO), as the majority of the free world does. In fact once the UK is free to remove EU imposed tariffs on none EU goods many things such as shoes from China and various foods will be reduced in price thus helping the lower paid. Without many EU directives businesses will be freed from time wasting bureaucracy and will prosper, which will create more jobs and opportunities.
    Since the 17.4 million majority voted to leave the EU just over three years ago all the predictions of the gloom mongers have been proven wrong, the UK, unlike many of the nations in the EU, has been prospering. While Greece has seen much misery, bankruptcies and people being made homeless, while Italy has been skirting around the fringes of bankruptcy and there has been high numbers of youth unemployment in Spain, the UK economy has been flourishing.


    All we need to do now is take that last step to walk away from the declining EU and walk towards great opportunities as a self confident and free nation once again - what is there not to like about leaving the EU which offers nothing but the loss of our nation and being subsumed into a federal European superstate with little democratic accountability?








     
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  6. Oldsparkey

    Oldsparkey Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Chill out pal - you're getting too far up yourself on here. <ok>
     
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  7. 2020VisionofLeeds

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    Wrote that yourself, did you?
     
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  8. FORZA LEEDS

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    **** that no.
     
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    A story told in the world of advertising: quote from a Guinness drinker Interviewed for market research:
    “I don’t drink Guinness because of the adverts, I drink it because it’s good for me. ”

    For those of you under the age of 60 out there... if there are any... the guiness ad for many years was ’Guinness is good for you’

    nobody likes to think they’re influenced, or in this example under the influence
     
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  10. 2020VisionofLeeds

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    It can happen, though hopefully without the aid of a baguette.;)

    Probably because it’s not just people who think Leave is a great idea who get somewhat wound up from time to time. It’s rather an important subject and - whichever side of it you fall on - the arguments say that going the other way (ooh, matron) will be potentially very bad for the country.
     
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    Just as well. It’s bollox.
     
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  12. Oldsparkey

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    No baguettes tonight matron!

    People will get wound up on what is unquestionably a serious subject, but FFS this is a chat forum not the bloody Supreme Court (the bastards!<laugh>)
     
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  13. FORZA LEEDS

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    At least it’s up to date bollocks and not something from last year <whistle>
     
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  14. dbc

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    Ok to go the simple point - the graph you chose shows growth:

    The 5th highest entry is Ireland - who are a member of...?

    Ahead of those are;

    Northern Mariana Islands
    Eritrea
    Rwanda
    Guinea

    Which one of those would you like UK to emulate?

    Growth is not the best comparison chart for a mature economy like the UK.
     
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    Hey guess what Derek Bennett is lying to you -

    https://www.brugesgroup.com/blog/the-benefits-of-leaving-the-eu

    There's not a single other country that relies solely on WTO rules they all have some international free trade agreements.
     
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    <laugh>:emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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    Where does it say other countries rely solely on WTO rules? It does nothing of the sort.

    Then there is trade, as a free self governing nation once again we can return to global trade under World Trade Rules (WTO), as the majority of the free world does.
     
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    It's just like the mellienium bug (remember) nearly everyone talking doomsday then nothing happened
    Roll on November 1st
     
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    Please confirm what is free about the EU
     
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    Shhhsh...20/20 doesn’t realise the millennium’s happened yet, he keeps posting articles from the last century :biggrin:
     
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