Match Day Thread Tottenham Hotspur v Bayern Munich

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Imho...I ain't got a fecking clue what needs doing, what the problem is, whether Pochettino will stay, why we sre so poor or why we can not defend...
But I do know one thing...I am gonna get skmd serious grief after this result...
And that ain't tight...ain't like I have dished it out in the past <whistle>
 
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Sorry PS but this is nonsense. The reason we conceded goals 3 and 4 were two appallingly bad errors from Aurier and Winks respectively. Teams like Bayern can and will score 'half chances' for fun. QED presenting them with as many as we did tonight is committing footballing suicide, as we did tonight.
That doesn't make my point nonsense. I agree we gave them goal chances through errors but we also created a lot of our own. The game was a lot more even than the scoreline.
 
No we didn't.

And as a result of it, we will now need to bring in a minimum of 4 players (LB, CM, AM, CB) at a minimum cost of appx £200m, meanwhile taking in a paltry £40-50m in player sales.

The task ahead of us is gargantuan.
City, Utd and Chelsea do that regularly.
 
From the BBC

"In terms of expected goals, Opta tell us Bayern would have been expected to score 1.36 goals from their chances. They scored seven.

Spurs' xG was actually higher - 1.97."

So even with all our mistakes, on the balance of play we would normally win 2-1.

I could see that from watching the game.....
 
Well, that was a ****ing disgrace, wasn't it?
The stupid ****ing diamond, no holding player and no creative midfielder and we lose. Shock.
I don't even blame the players any more.
As in the Leicester match the diamond led to us creating more chances than the opposition. The only thing Bayern were better at than us was finishing.
 
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Poch cannot say too much but his explanation so far is symptomatic of the dire state we find ourselves in.
Thinks we were 'unlucky' to go in 1-2!
Nooooooo! This is what feckin' happens every feckin' week it seems..... That's NOT unlucky.
We should have been two or three up before they scored. They were absolutely clinical in front of goal 7 goals from 10 shots on target as opposed to 2 from 8. The worst part was the lack of fight and poor technique. Winks should have been subbed at half time. Whatever his pros and cons debated on here he was useless tonight. Was Tanguy injured or running out of steam because I couldn’t comprehend his withdrawal. Do it him Poch can do better? Yes but not with a lot of these players. We need to bring in another magnificent seven,
 
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As in the Leicester match the diamond led to us creating more chances than the opposition. The only thing Bayern were better at than us was finishing.
The Leicester match that we lost and in which we had less shots and less shots on target than them?
It gave Lamela lots of space in the first half, because Rodgers made a mistake.
He corrected it at half-time and we didn't change quickly enough to respond.
 
We should have been two or three up before they scored. They were absolutely clinical in front of goal 7 goals from 10 shots on target as opposed to 2 from 8. The worst part was the lack of fight and poor technique. Winks should have been subbed at half time. Whatever his pros and cons debated on here he was useless tonight. Was Tanguy injured or running out of steam because I couldn’t comprehend his withdrawal. Do it him Poch can do better? Yes but not with a lot of these players. We need to bring in another magnificent seven,
In the first 30 mins Ndombele was always available for Winks and usually did something good when he got possession. After that he really faded. Taking someone off because they have tired is really sensible. Taking people off based on how they have played so far is stupid.
 
I couldn’t watch the game tonight. And thank **** I missed it. what the actual ****?!
I cannot remember the last time we conceded 7.

I bet all those spurs fans that ripped the piss out of arsenal for the 5-1’s are feeling ****ing stupid now! <doh>
 
7 goals due to the tactics alone?

I saw a lot of individual half arsed efforts out on the pitch aswell.

No point discussing it tonight...looks like there’s a lot to absorb.

Something is massively ****ed up behind the scenes that we don’t quite know about.
Poor tactics and team selection, as well as ongoing **** results affecting the confidence of the players.
The system leaves the fullbacks completely isolated and exposed and there's no cover when it happens.
This weird Winks as Jorginho role doesn't help either him or the team.
 
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Zero silver clouds tonight
I am doing my best. I thought we played really well in the first half and got undone by two wonder goals, the second of which only happened because of a lucky bounce in the area. In the first 10 mins of the second half we made two big errors which they punished. Up until 80 mins I still thought we might get a draw. We had no choice but to take risks then....so they were bound to have a chance of a fifth which they duly despatched. In terms of the tournament losing 7-2 is no worse than losing 1-0 so I am glad we went for it.
If we get nine points from the other matches we are still certain to go through.