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  1. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    You're right again. :1980_boogie_down:
     
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  2. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    And who would end up doing the work? :)
     
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  3. It'sOnlyAGame

    It'sOnlyAGame Well-Known Member

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    https://www.farmcarbontoolkit.org.uk/news/methane-myth-why-cows-arent-responsible-climate-change

    Growing vegetables instead is not without it's problems.Tilling the soil in preparation for vegetables releases carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide into the atmosphere. With the the demand for vegetables increasing as more people are encouraged to stop eating meat then greenhouse gasses will still be produced.

    https://joyce-farms.com/blogs/news/how-tilling-is-killing-the-atmosphere

    https://www.nature.com/news/one-third-of-our-greenhouse-gas-emissions-come-from-agriculture-1.11708
     
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  5. fatletiss

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    The animals are my domain. Even the kids pets!!
     
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  6. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

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    That would come at the natural time...




    Dinner time


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  7. fatletiss

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    I also wonder about the increase of flatulence if we all eat just veg.
     
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  8. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Chew it more to help digestion.
     
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  9. fatletiss

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    Now you sound like my wife!
     
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  10. thereisonlyoneno7

    thereisonlyoneno7 Well-Known Member

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    All this talk of food - Help me decide what to cook tonight:

    Lamb Curry
    Chicken Penne Pesto
    Steak in peppercorn mustard & cream sauce with steamed broccoli and rosemary potatoes
    Fish & Chips

    Oh decisions....
     
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    Option 2, every time
     
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  12. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    Simple answer to that is: there is absolutely no need to till soil before planting vegetables.

    http://www.no-till.uk/
     
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  13. thereisonlyoneno7

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    Yep may turn it into a pasta bake. Good call.
     
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  14. It'sOnlyAGame

    It'sOnlyAGame Well-Known Member

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    There are arguments for and against tillage https://modernfarmer.com/2013/08/7-facts-till-farming/

    People have their own reasons for what they eat and I totally agree with that.
    But the motive for these posts is that there have been a number of self-righteous lectures about how we should lead our lives (not you Chilcs I should add).
    What I was trying to show was that somethings are just opinions, not always straightforward and certainly not worthy of a lecture.
    My view is that discussions should be like a good diet,..... well balanced. :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  15. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Well, unfortunately, she's right. You're getting older [sorry about that truth. If it helps, so am I], and your gut's ability to digest food is getting less efficient. Hence, you have to give it a helping extra chew.

    Allied to that, you're not a footballer anymore [same here] and you probably don't need to eat as much as you did [waistline check - same here], so eating a tad too much, not chewing enough, and then expecting a digestion system that's no longer working 100% to sort out the problem, is going to result in flatulence. Perhaps we can both be thankful it isn't something worse. I did have crazy IBS, the first symptoms of which started around 2001, due to a torment of stress, and reached a peak around 9-10 years ago. I started to wean myself off certain foods and just cut back on others. It means now that I can eat pretty much anything I want within reason, including red meat, I just don't.
    One thing which I might have mentioned before - eggs. A couple of years ago I cracked open an egg to separate the white from the yoke, and a bit of white got onto my finger. Wow, the irritation that caused was massive. So I did it deliberately another time, and put a dab on my forearm. Result was hives, so I dropped eggs. Which was no bad thing. I was frying them and omeletting them, and nothing else. And I don't miss them at all now.
     
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  16. thereisonlyoneno7

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    Gone for a home made Lamb Rogan Josh. Going to take 2 hours to cook though to make the lamb as soft as butter :)
     
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    Grass fed pink veal as a bi-product of the dairy industry would go a long way towards making beef more sustainable, involve less senseless waste and cruelty and would partially counter the argument against dairy foods due to male calves being slaughtered for no good reason.
     
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  18. Schrodinger's Cat

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    Me neither - trouble is they actually need quite a bit of land, because they eat EVERYTHING. Where a sheep just nips the top off grass so that it continues growing, goats will eat the whole lot down to the ground. Some parts of Africa are losing topsoil and experiencing desertification due to goats.
    Real shame because it's probably my favourite meat, either curried or slow roasted and beautifully lean compared to lamb.
    I mentioned getting goats a few years ago, however my wife thought I meant those incredibly cute miniature buggers, not the ones that would fill my freezer.
     
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    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    As goats DO eat everything, as you say, it's best to have scrub rather than grass. And lots of it. My niece and her husband have about a quarter acre [my guestimate from memory] for two goats, with tall hazelnut [I think] bushes down one length. Seems to work reasonably well. They are watered on a daily basis, and are 'topped up' occasionally with whatever is going spare.
     
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  20. Schrodinger's Cat

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    My garden isn't quite that big I'm afraid. If I had the land, I'd have goats. I'm not allowed to rent or buy any extra land because apparently if we had that kind of spare cash I should spend it on something useful like electricity or food. :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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