Greta Thunberg

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Continue living your life like a sheep, content in the belief that what you are fed by the mainstream is how it really is.

And there we have it. The accusation that people are sheep for listening to the tested and reviewed theories.

You've just told me that Saturn used to be our Sun and that we orbited in it's purple glow where Gravity was less that it is now.

I would therefore suggest that it is you who need to question your beliefs about the information that you are being fed.
 
And there we have it. The accusation that people are sheep for listening to the tested and reviewed theories.

You've just told me that Saturn used to be our Sun and that we orbited in it's purple glow where Gravity was less that it is now.

I would therefore suggest that it is you who need to question your beliefs about the information that you are being fed.
If you ask me, and you ain't, hiag doesn't believe any of that **** and just wants bites.
 
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It’s undeniable that they did inhabit this Earth.

That was when Saturn was our sun, and we orbited within its purple glow. Our gravity was a lot less, in those times, enable half ton reptiles to fly.

Read Immanuel Velikovski’s groundbreaking “Worlds In Collision.”

Putting aside your crackpot idea about Saturn being our Sun. You do admit that Dinosaurs existed.

So presumably you understand that they existed on Earth before Humans ?

In which case, the Earth exists regardless of whether human consciousness perceives it or not ?
 
There are some interesting TED talks on why people end up believing the stuff they do and become completely entrenched in their views, despite all the evidence to the contrary.

This sort of stuff usually starts with the author of such views planting a falsehood which attempts to sow doubt in the established wisdom. From this doubt, they then introduce their own alternative view which is presented as the credible angle. The original evidence is then framed as being misleading or false.

You can see this in the language that HIAG uses. I.e ‘The scientists are lying’ and he even has a motive for why they are lying ‘to keep themselves in a job’

Before you know it, otherwise reasonable thinking people end up swallowing all sorts of nonsense and passing it off as fact.

I also think there’s a social angle to this to, in as much that some people’s desire to ‘be different’ and ‘not follow the masses’ leads them into placing stock in these falsehoods The desire to say ‘I’ve got some knowledge that you don’t understand’ overrides the actual facts.

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Yes, fake news/alt right targets lonely vulnerable old people who then think they belong to a group privy to some secret understanding. It makes them feel less lonely.
 
Anyone who challenges the current paradigm is attacked. The sterner the challenge, the more vicious and unreasoning the attack from the mainstream. Many eminent so-called scientists admitted to not reading Milton’s book before roundly condemning it.

You have a choice, Pix.

Continue living your life like a sheep, content in the belief that what you are fed by the mainstream is how it really is.

Or examine the views of those who challenge the mainstream version, and then make up your own mind.

If you read the summaries and critiques of people like Milton, Talbot, Thornhill, Prof Don Scott, Crothers, Hancock, etc, you are reading the words of people antagonist to those writers and thinkers, so you are never going to get a fair appraisal.

Why not take the intelligent approach, and instead of cowardly siding with those who want to dissuade you from reading these works, read them for yourself, with an open mind, and find out what has made the mainstream so angry?

Despite your desperate attempts to make yourself sound interesting, you are as mainstream and banal as they come
 
I'd you ask me hiag doesn't believe any of that **** and just wants bites.

The best thing he could do is say 'Ahh got you all, you actually believed that I subscribe to this complete tosh. Is there any doubt that I am the wum master !'

HIAG, I invite you to come clean and claim your wum victory if this is the case ?
 
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Putting aside your crackpot idea about Saturn being our Sun. You do admit that Dinosaurs existed.

So presumably you understand that they existed on Earth before Humans ?

In which case, the Earth exists regardless of whether human consciousness perceives it or not ?

They still exist bro




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Do yourself a favour and read his book, and his detailed assessment of the actual evidence (or, rather, the lack thereof) for neo Darwinism.

I’m not trying to convert you to my point of view, I merely want you to read an intelligent sceptic’s take on things.

If you have the courage to do that, let’s discuss this subject again.

I guarantee you that you are as ignorant of the paradigm that you profess to support as you are of the sceptics’ view.



It is not a subject I know anything about, so I will not voice an opinion either way.

Sorry but that's not the game,
I'm not interested in someone elses point of view and the evidence they cherry picked.

I'm interested in yours.
 
Sorry but that's not the game,
I'm not interested in someone elses point of view and the evidence they cherry picked.

I'm interested in yours.

Stay ignorant, then. It makes no difference to me.

There are millions like you.

Stay safe in that crowd, yeah.
 
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It’s undeniable that they did inhabit this Earth.

That was when Saturn was our sun, and we orbited within its purple glow. Our gravity was a lot less, in those times, enable half ton reptiles to fly.

Read Immanuel Velikovski’s groundbreaking “Worlds In Collision.”

Again, instead of pointing me at some elses opinion and claiming it's more true than other claims. Give me the evidence that makes you believe it and therefore makes it undeniable.
 
Again, instead of pointing me at some elses opinion and claiming it's more true than other claims. Give me the evidence that makes you believe it and therefore makes it undeniable.

He won't. He'll just fall back on the falsehood that mainstream science is a lie and that the crackpots actually have the truth.

He'll accuse you of being a sheep who has been hoodwinked into following the masses.

This is what conspiracy theorists do.
 
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Give up bro it ain't gonna happen <laugh>

I know :emoticon-0102-bigsm
I'm just highlighting his failure to appreciate that he has chosen to believe one person over another and he is incapable of putting forwards the argument that supports the claims he as chosen to accept.

I'm more than happy to analyse his explanations for his beliefs once he is able to express them.
 
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