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The Politics Thread

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Wandering Yid, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    Matt Lucas will be rubbing his hands at the career opportunities
     
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    If Tory party members thought Boris was the answer, WTF was the question?
     
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    "Do we know anyone who's been meeting with Steve Bannon?"?
     
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    Trump changes lawyers quite frequently.Is it because he doesn't pay 'em? Changes staff too......has Boris picked up anything from him since he "sacked" many Tories for being naughty rebels?
     
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  6. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Who have we seen on TV?
     
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  7. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    Who can we elect as leader to make matters much worse?

    To be fair, they weren't wrong.
     
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    or, who can we elect as leader who thinks he is above the law, who will get Brexit done even if it means going to Prison? Which, in his case will be an open prison similar to that that Jeffery Archer had.
     
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    St Helena send him there. Where the man who crowned himself Emperor resided.

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  10. PowerSpurs

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    We seem to have a hole in our constitution in that someone can be appointed Prime Minister while clearly not commanding a Parliamentary majority for his program.
     
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    Yep it's called the Fixed Term Parliament Act. Before that a PM could go to the country at his time of choosing in order to get a majority to carry out his program should the people support him/her. Now you get a game of bluff/double bluff.
     
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    My beef is with Boris being made PM in the first place.
     
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    He commanded a majority of 1 when he was appointed cons + DUP for about 10 minutes.
     
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  14. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    To be fair, it was ever thus.

    The problem's our ridiculous party political system and the inability of the parties to seek concensus. As a nation, we'd be a whole lot better off if we'd not spent the last 100 years or so swinging violently from left to right, each favouring one element of the population over and above others. Only for the next government to start unpicking the last lot's doing.

    Is there any real benefit to anyone in rushing towards Brexit and getting it badly wrong? I don't see any definite benefit to anyone other than the immediate popularity of a leader who will be celebrated in the right wing press. The rest of us get to live with the results, whatever they turn out to be.

    I don't want this rushed and ****ed up and waiting a couple of years to try and come up with something sensible doesn't seem the worst idea in the world. The fixing of parliamentary terms was to avoid exactly this scenario. May went to get a majority for this and didn't get it. Now it's time to do some proper work in dealing with the problem and start coming up with sensible solutions. Unfortunately, our PM isn't capable of anything like such an approach.
     
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    Very true although the Brexit process is akin to a cancer destroying the UK. To me that cancer needs removing and the only way to do it is to respect the result of the referendum. Like following an operation to remove a tumor, we would be weak immediately afterwards, but hopefully would recover to a position of strength in the longer term. I would rather have a clean break now, but agree to pay the 39 billion, even if it is not strictly owed, and then get whatever deal might be on offer.
     
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    When did we see PMs and Presidents breaking the laws and doing what they liked,prior to the present dipsticks? (forgetting Nixon,of course!)
     
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    Reagan and Iran-Contra?
     
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    Blair & Iraq

    Brown & Scotland
     
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    Kissinger & Rumsfeld all the time
     
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  20. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    To me, a No-Deal exit is akin to cutting out an inner organ, without any knowledge of anatomy, whilst hoping it won't prove fatal. It's a complete punt.
     
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