If the law is passed so the UK has to have a deal before it can leave the EU but there is no deal available that parliament approves by the 31st Oct, what then? I assume that the UK will have to ask for an extension of the Brexit date? Should the EU refuse to extend the date would the UK be forced to withdraw article 50 as they are held by the law preventing them leaving without a deal?
the traitorous ****s say they want a deal but when they are offered one the knock it back, haven't you worked out what the lying bastards are doing yet?
Corbyn and his undemocratic pals have done Boris a favour, the Tories will be a party full of brexiteers now, they will merge with the Brexit party and wipe the floor with Commie Steptoe and his side kick McDonnel at the next GE Rod, you heard it here first mate
Just sat here reading this whilst watching Paxman's "Why are Politicians So Crap?" on C5. Some wee burd expressed that she believed that Corbyn was actually a Brexiteer in his heart, based on his previous speeches, associations, & voting pattern. She may well have a point. He's simply being a politician. Which is his job. I still can't stand him, though! That's certainly one view. Another is that Brexit will overtake the traditional party political politics. Result? Well I don't think the Labour will grow their vote, but I don't think it'll contract much either, as they're pretty much down to hardcore voters - mainly due to Corbyn & his sidekick driving the non-hardcore support away, I might add. I don't see the tories growing their vote either. And there is a very real danger of contraction. A very, very real danger. Before it might have been Labour or LibDem that might have stolen their vote. This time, there is no doubt in my mind that it'll be the Brexit Party. There is talk of a pre-election deal between the two. I think there is more likely to be a post-election deal. An essential one. With the very real possibility of Farage as PM. Boris will have failed the tories, & given the leadership vote, there is apparently no-one in their party standing by to replace him. Johnson may have made a vital mistake with his voters by expelling many MPs that are held in higher esteem by the public than he is. Particularly those of the traditional tory variety. For instance, doesn't everyone love old Ken Clarke, no matter their political persuasion. He's the top mistake. Father of the house, voice of reason, and a huge, dependable track record bettered by few. Sacked by a petulant clown. Doesn't go down well with the old afternoon tea brigade. Interesting times. Sadly, the only loser is the ordinary punter. You may think it's bad now. Just wait, whoever wins .....
Labour have lost many thousands of older traditional voters, but gained a lot of brainwashed gullible student type useful idiots, thanks to Steptoe bullshitting them, saying that, my brother thinks Steptoe is great, but he's a ****ing knobhead and my mother must have shagged the milkman Ken Clarke is a fat ****ing bloated **** by the way
May be true about Labour - I honestly have no idea. I'm a dyed-in-the-wool socialist who will never vote for them with Corbyn or his #2 at the helm, so perhaps you're right, as I'm old! Ken Clarke is a tory & I'm obliged by my political standing to hate all he stands for. But I love the bloke, actually. He's one of the fairest & most sensible tories in a position of power that there's ever been. Just to add, I used to like Boris, but more for his buffoonery & unbelievable haircut! I accept that London seemed to have benefited during his Mayorship, but I don't know how much of that is down to him, if i'm honest. I must say however that in his present guise, he scares the shiit out of me. And he should scare a lot more that he's done so far. I have no doubt that he will if not wound in. This is a constitutional crisis. Remove Brexit from the present scenario & consider his conduct. Or reverse it - what would you say if he was introducing all this chicanery to Remain. Sometime you have to look beyond the detail & look at the fundamentals. And he is undermining the fundamentals. And before you ask - I have no idea who I'm going to vote for. If only Screaming Lord Such hadn't snuffed it.
I couldn't care less what they are up to all I was pointing out was that the UK appear to be getting themselves into a legal corner with very little chance of escape. Perhaps if the ERG, Rees-Mogg and Johnson etc had supported the negotiated deal when they had the chance you would have been out by now?
Found this most amusing - not the content particularly, I might add. I was about to give up quite quickly until I read the white subtitles. Seems some of our colonial cousins don't have a great ear for the UK dialect ...
Before you accept that Boris has done a lot for London, think about what he did for the London Fire Brigade. Closed numerous stations and retired many appliances leaving the city bereft of a much needed fire fighting capacity. As an ex-London fireman I understand what his cuts have cost the city in safety measures. The current mayor isn't much better and has evened the score by giving the people the choice of either burning to death or being stabbed.
Got to hand it to him, his two predecessors had to work at it before they became worst PM of the last 200 years.
Not sure it's a law persa, it's a Brexit Delay Bill. The law on deal or no deal is written into EU law, therefore, whatever happens in Parliament, no deal can still happen automatically if no deal is not reached, and agreed between the EU and the UK. Let's not forget the No Deal vote took the No Deal option off the table while Treasonous May was PM., but they couldn't stop leaving the EU with a No Deal. The Antichrists would have to pursue the EU to change the law on leaving the EU with no deal. Parliament cannot overrule the EU law while we are still, technically within the EU. 27 member countries would have to vote to remove the No Deal option from Article 50. Also, the UK leaving the EU without a deal, if a deal cannot be agreed is an option that all 28 member countries agreed too, and signed up to. The same agreement was agreed too, and signed off by the EU and the UK. If the EU refuse to come to the table to discuss a deal, the only option left is to leave with no deal, as per the EU law written in to the Treaty of the European Union enacted by the Treaty of Lisbon. Until the withdrawal from the European Union is effected, the UK remains a member of the EU continuing to fulfil all EU-related treaties and must legally be treated as a member.[39][40]
Boris's response to the Brexit Delay Bill. Boris has already got rid of 21 Tories who voted against him. They cannot stand for re election at the next GE. Parliament stops Boris from calling a GE, labour abstained, and Bercow mentioned the majority has not been reached.
Forgot to mention, The Scottish Judge dismissed the legal case against Boris's prorogation of Parliament. Says it has no merit.
Took this off a Brexit comments column, made me laugh a lot. Nope - Corbyn is hideously unpopular (he's an old-style Socialist) in a recent poll of party leaders - Boris Johnson - 45%, Jo Swinson (Lib-Dem) - 19%, Don't knows - 19% and Jeremy Corbyn - 17%. Corbyn, the only man to ever finish fourth in a three horse race! please log in to view this image Matt Fibonacci 2 days ago
My understanding was that the Irish backstop would only have been in place until an alternative arrangement was agreed. Not in my opinion anything to do with trade or sovereignty but more life and death than that. Had not the Government depended for its majority on the DUP do you think it would have been such a big issue? In my opinion if you had agreed Mays deal the UK would now be operating outside the EU and negotiations for trade deals would have been in hand with the EU and others during this transition period and solutions to the Irish backstop being discussed and agreed. That sounds a whole lot rosier than where you are now but there is no use crying over spilt milk. Trade deals with the EU will always require the adoption of some EU regulations but if you want nothing to do with the EU then that is another thing.
Lord Doherty said "In my view, the advice given in relation to the prorogation decision is a matter involving high policy and political judgement. "This is political territory and decision making which cannot be measured against legal standards, but only by political judgements. "Accountability for the advice is to parliament, and ultimately the electorate - not to the courts." Having said that Johnson may now be regretting the lack of parliamentary time
