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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Wandering Yid, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. Spudulike

    Spudulike Well-Known Member

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    Corbyn, September 2018, Twitter: 'We need a General Election and I'm ready for it. Bring it on.'

    Corbyn, November 2018, CBI speech: 'If the Government cannot get its central policy through Parliament, then we will demand a general election.'

    Corbyn, December 2018, Daily Mirror: 'The Government is going to struggle. It may well resign. There may well be a general election. And I can't wait.'

    Corbyn, May 2019, Twitter: 'Let the people decide our country's future: we need a General Election now.'

    Corbyn, September 2, 2019, speech in Salford: 'When a government finds itself without a majority the solution is not to undermine democracy. The solution is to let the people decide, and call a general election.'

    Corbyn, Today: Nah... maybe not then.
     
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  2. SpursDisciple

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    You want him to agree to an Election at the Govts time of choosing. Luckily he is not that stupid. Absolutely nothing inconsistent about what you have posted.
     
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  3. Spudulike

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    He literally asked for one yesterday and today refuses one. He's backed away because he knows he will lose.
     
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  4. deedub93

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    He will change his mind. Last night the Brexiteers lost a battle but not the war. They will lose another battle tonight. However, there are already 102 amendments to the Letwin bill proposed in the Lords by Brexiteers, clearly they will try to talk the bill out.
     
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  5. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    I'm not even sure he knows that. However, there's plenty of people in his party who do and will be advising him to hold back and let Boris & Co **** things up some more and hope that Labour profits from the chaos.

    The unfortunate thing is in the meantime the UK continues to crash and burn, with every chance that we could still screw things up even further.
     
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  6. humanbeingincroydon

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    Wrong

    What has actually happened is that Corbyn has placed removing the No Deal By Default option that Johnson and Cummings have been plotting for months (right down to their plotting to suspend parliament for weeks before the proven liar announced it, meaning that he lied to parliament, the public and The Queen to do so) off the table, so rather than backing down he's played the proven liar like a fiddle

    And let's be honest here, it's not the flip-flop you're trying to portray it as, considering Corbyn has said for months that he wants No Deal removed before either an election or a second referendum, so what he's actually done is the sensible thing - and the look on the proven liar's face when he realised Corbyn saw his trap and disarmed it says it all

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    Also, did you forget that for the past two days the proven liar has said that he doesn't want an election, yet now he's saying he does? A bit of an omission from your post, that...
     
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  7. The RDBD

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    Probably more than stupid enough to think the govt will agree to a
    general election at a time of his choosing (spoiler alert ... ) .
     
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  8. The RDBD

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    Five hundred odd MPs who voted to trigger "article 50" , 18 months before a final
    deal was even presented to parliament. They may now reap what they sowed.


    "What is certainly true is that no-one contemplated no deal during the campaign."

    I did (specifically : the possibility that no agreement amenable to both sides would arise) .
    But then I am a scientist/engineer by education and profession (the latter teaching me
    that possibility sometimes becomes reality - and sooner than you think, so better give
    consideration to it on day 1) .
     
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  9. deedub93

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    Cameron sussed it. In an email, he said 'I off, 3 years of Brexit Bol!ocks', he wasn't far wrong.
     
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  10. The RDBD

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    If the Queen could reject his resignation, she should have done so.

    Contempt for him I may have over the referendum, but I suspect that
    remaining as PM with the majority he had, he would have got a far
    more amenable deal done than the utter train wreck of "negotiation"
    that citizen May concocted.

    Anyway, back to real matters of interest ...

    My understanding is that the UK has been negotiating and signing
    "continuity" agreements with nations X, whereby in the event of
    the EU/UK going for WTO terms, X will for the short term agree
    to continue trading with the UK under the EU T+Cs agreed with X
    when the UK was an EU member.

    Does anybody know who is in the set of X ??
    The USA ?? China ?? Commonwealth nations ??
     
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  12. SpursDisciple

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    If they have a choice.
     
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  13. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    Don't be getting any hopes up. We are royally ****ed.

    Basically, these...
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47213842
     
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  14. The RDBD

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    So the USA and China are the big two to do.
    Will be interesting to see what the latter do, given their current trade aggro with the USA.
     
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  15. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    Given that we are likely to be utterly desperate and both are known to be extremely generous, considerate nations, I'm sure that we'll be fine....<laugh>
     
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    Says it all that notable tax havens Switzerland and Liechtenstein were signed up long before any viable trade partners, doesn't it?
     
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  17. The RDBD

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    At least with the USA you can always threaten to leave NATO
    if they try and be silly (it will be 'Iceland ++ ' :) ) .
     
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  18. The RDBD

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    Luxembourg would have similarly loved to, but sadly neither Amazon Inc
    nor the EU would let them.
     
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  19. bigsmithy9

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    I would suggest all politicians resign and get jobs at MacDonalds.That way they've got something to fall back on later on and they can find out how much the public are pissed off with all of them!
     
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  20. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    That just leaves all of the Indian sub-continent, the Far-East (excluding South Korea but including Japan), South America (excluding Chile), the Middle East, most of Africa, etc, etc, etc.

    No problemo.
     
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