........don't forget biased, crooked Burcow the speaker who is supposed to have no eyes to see or tounge to speak and the twisted,lieing , cowardly, self serving MP's who get voted in on Manifesto promises and betray the people that voted them in, we won't mention the referendum betrayal of the majority that voted leave/out. Only a remoaner could call that honesty, trustworthy and demoratic.
Actually I respect the result of the referendum gents. I just didn't see anywhere on the ballot say 'no deal'. And that's what this is trying to force through. Not a single person in the country explicitly voted for 'no deal'. Do you honestly not see the hypocrisy in asking essentially a dictator to block our Parliament? You don't think that's a bit weird? The fact that we're actually asking our democracy to stop? It's really not that hard to comprehend...
The actual ballot paper question was remain or leave not do you want it to rain or the sun shine on the day ? do you want a cash or loan deal? blah, blah, blah.. Leave or Remain that was the vote and printed in big bold black block capitals, It seems that is hard for you to comprehand but we the majority did, please log in to view this image
So if I want to leave with a deal but absolutely not leave without a deal what do I vote for wiz? And actually answer it. A mandate for no deal was never, ever given. Weirdly, what Jacob Rees-Mogg suggested (a series of referenda to decide what type of Brexit people actually wanted) would be a good idea now. He'd obviously pretend he didn't want it of course. There's only one person being daft here and it isn't me.
The ballot paper was designed and agreed by a remainer, the question on the ballet paper was agreed by a remaine,he was the guy that prophesised world war 3, Mr David Cameron,the referendum vote was agreed by a majority including remainers in Parliament 544 to 53 on it's 2nd reading and 316 to 53 on it's 3rd reading, article 50 bill was passed with 413 to 202. Since the referendum, we have been called, thick,stupid, uneducated, to old, if you are implying I am daft, that along with all of the other insults remainers in their superior, soporific way call us just falls by the wayside.
As Wiz pointed out the question was simple and binary leave or remain , we voted, albeit by a small majority, to leave, Ive said on several occasions the only question remaining is how we leave , personally I’d have no objection to a 2nd referendum, with or without a deal. Unfortunately it will never happen because Many MPs don’t want to leave at all, so whilst what BoJo did was bending the rules, it’s the MPs that are trying to stop any kind of Brexit happening which have forced his hand. I do find it hypocritical when remainers who would look for any constitutional loophole to stop a Brexit of any kind , call foul when one is used to stop them.
Did you see the bit that said only if we get a deal? ] what you are forgetting AR is that BCFCROB was one of the few that had a special ballot paper that said Leave the European Union [] [ but not with a deal ] He is not bending the rules … he is keeping the promise parliament should deliver to the people! just take on board the fact the only petitions, moaners, objectors are a few disgruntled remainers about 5% or so of those that voted stay, sure they have got 1.5m on the petition but where is the one that says he is right? like a lot of the moans they are one sided remainers ......... ..............leavers just want to get on with it …
Thank you! So we're in agreement that none of us voted for no deal. Asking a dictator to shut down Parliament so that the people physically cannot have their say is not a constitutional loophole. If remain had won, and then we shut Parliament (literally the OPPOSITE of democracy) to force through the Euro and the EU army, apparently wiz, JGF, Redprintt and all the other leavers would all have put up and shut up. Mental isn't it. Leave won and the country should do everything it can to deliver a good Brexit. No deal is not a good Brexit, and to actually shut down Parliament so that the people cannot have their say should be illegal. I also think they should have foregone their summer break this year given the situation we're in. Also, any thoughts from you guys from the hundreds of stories we're hearing of people who've lived here for 20 years not being allowed to stay? It's not the fault of Brexit I know but it's so, so sad.
Out of interest as I was in Australia and didn't vote, what did the ballot say? As far as I'm aware, there were no conditions attached - good or bad, so I can't see the argument of people saying they didn't vote 'no-deal'. I'm sure there were not many that would have voted for Theresa May's 'deal' either. When we vote on such things we have to leave our trust in the MPs to do the right thing, and they didn't, they did anything but. Constitutionally the MPs and Parliament are, by there very definition, to act for the people and their votes, so for some of these wasters who did ZERO for 3 years, hoping that Brexit would go away, should hang their heads in shame, yet they are calling this decision un-constitutional which like their efforts over the past 3 years is plain wrong. It may not be appealing, but the option certainly exists within the constitution (and law) and therefore it's the PM's right to exercise this option. Love him or hate him, BJ has got some wheels in motion on this and is actually talking tough and taking action to make Britain have a say in this process, and not be dictated to by the EU and the EU fear that which is something they never did under Thersa May's leadership.
We all voted for what was on the ballot paper, Leave or Remain, none expected we would have to treat the polling station like a local Tesco's and all take along an individual shopping list demanding our preferences. When will remoaners realise we are leaving on the 31st October, I've just heard they have lost their first court case in Scoltland, maybe sanity will prevail, the time and expense these people are wasting trying to keep us under the control of the superstate, what are they going to do when we are out and free.
they have lost the first part! next week they go back to present a fuller case and the cheating " I DID THE SAME WHEN I WAS PM2 is joining the fray, obviously wont be standing for a seat next GE
The expense is mostly done on the fund raising site … if they had to pay themselves they wouldn't be so keen … Think I might start a fund raising site … charge 5% of funds for doing it and buzz off to the Bahamas outside of hurricane season ……...
By next Friday the Remainer MPs will have changed the law. Guess what - the 31/10 will be extended. Rob will be happy. And it goes on and on....
Definitely won't be happy RP. The longer this goes on the more it's doing all of our heads in I think. If we are going to crash out I'd rather we just got on with it! Though of course I'd rather we didn't crash out without a deal at all.
I believe the majority of the experts. You believe it's all nonsense. Both are fair, but there's nothing wrong with using that terminology based on my beliefs. Let's face it, even the most pro-Brexit politicians have conceded it's going to be a rough ride, barely anyone on either side genuinely thinks it will be beneficial in the short-term. It's the long-term argument really isn't it.
Yes, I agree it's 'the long term argument'. But I find it superficial that every comment from every Remainer uses just one adjective - 'crash'.
good result for city...could have been better.. before the game was watching the masses at 3 of the main ….and just done so again... sites ... where as the masses????? when you consider 1.5m signed a petition, …. WELL 1.5 email addresses signed a petition, in terms of people probably less than 800k? …. the "expected crowds are very poor. If you have ever been in London on a Saturday toward the end of summer the areas they are demonstrating in are always quite packed, tourists/ end of term visits /etc then the actual crowds are likely only about 70% or so of what they appear ……………. the most benefit will be by the souvenir shops and abundance of vendors /cafes etc THE COSTAS ETC of which in that area are loads … it will be a sad sad day if Corbolliks and the cronies gets to stop us leaving …. Should after we leave become prosperous, and I THINK WE WILL, will these tyrants be held to account banished into realms of IQ zero's and have to repay all those suckers that paid for their antics in going to court … a sort of PPI scenario for the misled … should they win heaven forbid and the government then challenge them /appeal how disgusting is that they have forced the well blackballed / blackmailed the government into dragging our 90 year Queen into the fray … pity she hasn't got the power to banish corbolliks womble and the rest to a fort in the thames estuary and fed bread and given a fishing line …..
