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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. Farked19

    Farked19 Well-Known Member

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    Paradoxically I think that Pfeffel's biggest threat will come from Farage. His strategy threatens the laters raison d'être and therefore his very existence. Current wisdom says that this is leading up to a May agreement Mark2 and that will put the ERG plus Brexit Party into low orbit. Both leaders, Tory and Brexit, place their own interests above all others. The latest uneasy ceasefire pact is a version of Ribbentrop/Molotov with both currently planning Barbarossa.
     
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  2. ChilcoSaint

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    I’ll be coming up for the march on the 19th, let’s try and meet up!
     
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    We will, I'm not sure if I'll be staying in Dibden with my sister or London. Time enough to sort a meeting place, may I suggest a strategically located pub?
     
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  4. ChilcoSaint

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    Definitely! Perhaps one of our London-based colleagues could suggest somewhere adjacent to either Hyde Park or Parliament?
     
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  5. ChilcoSaint

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  6. San Tejón

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    Back to protesting about fascism again, then.
     
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  7. San Tejón

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    If that's what this called, yes indeed. I don't seek confrontation, peaceful demonstration. I don't expect a big leave counter demonstration. Perhaps Farage will try another £50 a day trip.
     
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    Like your optimism. Unfortunately she is a member of the Scottish parliament and therefore does not affect Bunter's post in terms of majority..
     
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  10. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    She is an MSP, not an MP. She says she will continue as an MSP until the Scottish elections in 2021. Nothing about leaving the Tory Party in her statement.

    Under her leadership the Tories doubled their number of seats in the Scottish Parliament to become the second biggest party in Scotland after the SNP, and they also increased the number of Tory MP’s in Scotland from 1 to 13 in 2017. Her resignation will be a huge blow to Johnson, even though they hated each other’s guts.
     
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  11. Archers Road

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    I demonstrated against the National Front during the 70s. Never occurred to me for one moment, back then, that they'd have one of their own in Downing Street, or that the KKK would have one of theirs in the Whitehouse.
     
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    This thread has always been so one sided, especially without imps holding the fort door.
    So I started looking around.
    Apparently 'Brexit' means something else up North. Its like some wondrous light at the end of a tunnel. Something that will free us all while committing the rest of europe to generations of knee bending. Has something been lost in translation, I do struggle a bit with a thick geordie accent?
    Here's a snip-bit, but it's alive of the toon page if any of you are brave enough.
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    Boris will be like Churchill.. the right man at the right time to lead us through these troubles.

    The boot of the EU will no longer be on the backs of our necks... we will be free to make the deal if the century with Trump.

    The EU countries will then bend the knee before Boris as their economies crumble into the primordial soup.

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    I no longer worry about our political future. While the Amazon burns and our Bee's die, we are happy to destroy our green belt for a 20 minute quicker journey on HS2. That say's it all. We are fooked. <laugh>
     
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  13. San Tejón

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    She has always come across as a decent person and one that I felt would have been a formidable leader of the Tory party.
     
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    decent person / formidable leader
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    Not on the list for potential leaders I'm afraid. Next
     
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  15. Saints_Alive

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    Were you at the Rock Against Racism free concert in Hoglands Park in '78 mate?....a group of NF Skins got chased all through the parks that day!
     
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    Yeah, I think I was as it happens. I didn’t fight any skinheads that day though.

    I think my mate’s band were onstage that day. Chaos, though as I recall they may have spelled it K-Oz or something. Long time ago.

    I remember the Clash headlining a Rock Against Racism gig at Victoria Park in East London that same year.
     
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    I remember seeing The Saints and Chelsea that day but not at the Dell!.

    Yeah Joe, Mick and Paul were the driving force behind Punk's general stance against racism and I love them all the more for it. Without them I doubt if the Punk movement would've been that much of a force for good.
     
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  18. San Tejón

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    I really feel for this woman. How many more are in her position?

     
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  19. ChilcoSaint

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    Hundreds of thousands, at a guess. 1.3 million non-British EU citizens live here, and a huge percentage of them are being denied settled status.

    Or to put it another way, there are are nearly 70 million EU citizens in the UK, and all of us will lose out if Brexit happens.
     
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  20. Archers Road

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    Yeah, The Clash were the most politicised of the Punk bands.

    I was a bit conflicted about punk, because on the one hand I loved the energy, and got to see some great live acts. But on the other hand, it was very tribal, very us vs them; plus it was a pain having to hide all your Led Zep and Hawkwind albums.
     
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