No options? Did you not read the Leave propaganda? It all specifically said there would be a deal. It NEVER said no deal was an option or a possibility. Stick to your position if you must, but dont rewrite history.
The Politics thread is now back open following a poor showing against Pompey. Please feel free to argue the same old arguments over and over again. Ridicule others opinions, shoot down any facts or statistics. If all else fails, resort to minor abuse. We are the country of remainers and leavers. Democracy has left the building. Welcome dictatorship and always remember to eat your 5 a day.....or is it 10 now?! I've forgotten.
Biris starting to piss off his own party members with his shenanigans... Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson 'on verge of quitting' 2 hours ago please log in to view this image Image copyrightGETTY IMAGES Image captionMs Davidson has led the Scottish Conservatives for eight years Ruth Davidson is on the verge of quitting as leader of the Scottish Conservatives, BBC Scotland understands. Ms Davidson has been deeply unhappy with the prime minister's pursuit of a possible no-deal Brexit. She is said to be considering her position, with a statement on her future likely to be made on Thursday. Ms Davidson, who gave birth to a son in October of last year, has been leader of the party since November 2011. Sources have told the BBC that Ms Davidson's decision was based on a mixture of personal and political factors which have been building over recent months. Profile: Ruth Davidson How Brexit broke 'Team Ruth' Parliament to be suspended in September MPs ask Scottish court to block Brexit shutdown And they insisted it was not a direct result of the announcement by Mr Johnson that he wants to suspend parliament in September - only a few weeks before the Brexit deadline of 31 October. BBC Scotland's political editor, Brian Taylor, said that he believes Ms Davidson has made her mind up to stand down on Thursday. He added: "She has been eight years as Conservative leader, during most of which she has driven the party and the Conservative cause forward. She was talked of at various points as being a potential prime minister and said herself the ambition was to be first minister. "But it would seem tonight she is, amid the turmoil of Brexit, resigning from both of those options." please log in to view this image Image copyrightGETTY IMAGES Image captionMs Davidson and Mr Johnson clashed in a TV debate ahead of the EU referendum The Scottish Sun, which broke the story, said it had been told by a senior Conservative source that juggling motherhood with politics had "taken its toll" on Ms Davidson, as had the "current political climate, where she's found herself at increasing odds with the new leadership in London". It is not yet known whether she will continue to serve as the MSP for Edinburgh Central, or will stand down completely from frontline politics. Ms Davidson backed Remain ahead of the EU referendum, and famously clashed with Mr Johnson in a live TV debate at Wembley before the vote - when she accused the Leave side of telling "untruths". She publicly backed opponents of Mr Johnson in the Conservative leadership contest, and has previously said she would not support a no-deal Brexit. Ms Davidson was also said to have been angered by Mr Johnson's decision to sack David Mundell - a close political ally of hers - as Scottish secretary and replace him with Alister Jack. please log in to view this image Image copyright@RUTHDAVIDSONMSP Image captionMs Davidson and her partner Jen Wilson celebrated the birth of baby Finn in October of last year The 40-year-old was widely credited with turning around the fortunes of the Scottish Conservatives, with the party more than doubling its number of seats at Holyrood in the 2016 election - making it the second biggest party behind the SNP - and increasing its MPs from one to 13 in the 2017 general election. That relative success had seen her tipped as a future UK Tory leader, but she insisted she had no interest in the job - and that she was focused only on replacing Nicola Sturgeon as first minister of Scotland at the next Holyrood election in 2021. When she returned to the Scottish Parliament from maternity leave in May, she told BBC Scotland that it would be "tough to tear myself away from the wee man" but that "having a child and coming back to work is a part that lots of women play". 'Real blow' Reacting to the news that Ms Davidson may quit, Scottish Labour Leader Richard Leonard said: "If the rumours are true then the loss of Ruth Davidson as leader of the Scottish Conservatives will be a real blow to her party. "This shows that even within his own ranks, Boris Johnson is already losing support and credibility. Scotland and the UK needs a general election as quickly as possible to oust him from Downing Street and elect a Labour government." Scottish Liberal Democrat leader Willie Rennie said: "It's no surprise Ruth Davidson has run out of reasons to stand by this dangerous and power hungry prime minister. "There must be lots of other like-minded conservatives who are horrified at this blatant abuse of power and can't stomach being party to this destructive agenda any longer. They should take this as the signal to abandon ship." Scottish Greens co-leader Patrick Harvie said: "It seems clear that Ruth Davidson and several of her senior colleagues at Holyrood are every bit as disturbed as the rest of the country by Brexit itself, and by the dangerous No Deal agenda of Boris Johnson. "Ruth may be have unable to foster any kind of rational politics inside the Conservative Party, but she is at least due some credit now for ending the pretence and resigning as party leader, and at a personal level I wish her well for the future
C’mon Boris bring back the tax cuts. Champagne will be flowing for the elected few. I suspect not do much in Swindon and the likes.
It’ll be the easiest deal in history. The cult of Brexit doesn’t do facts, sadly. **** knows what these ****s think they’re going to get out of it or how their probably quite comfortable lives were hindered by the EU in some way Brexit will eradicate.
Absolutely it’s a dream that in the minds of a Brexiteer that good old Blighty will some how be free and a better place to live. The rich will be richer that’s for sure. No point in the statement about MPs and rich bankers do you think that will change? Col is also right when he jokes we will be doomed etc ... maybe nothing will effect the average Brexit person but the EU didn’t really affect them either. The swell of the Brexit protest will be hollow in the long term and damage to the country absolutely certain They face questions eventually: Why did we do that? Have we not actually made things worse and more difficult? No one on here can ever state 17m voted for the damage that will occur via the outcome of a no deal. The irony is the drive of Brexit will shoot the UK in the foot and with no plan or ideas after it’s done then why? As in 2016.... people will be worse off if we leave the EU and still in 2019 I haven’t heard anything that has shown me anything different.
1.2m people have signed the petition to block Boris in a day Agreed it’s just a petition nothing more but No dealers that’s the actual ground swell you are up against
We need to distance ourselves as much as possible from our FRIENDS & PARTNERS in the EU. We need to take back control by handing it to a bloke who will then dictate to us all. Stop the EU immigration but increase non eu immigration. We definately need to **** the education system up for a generation so we then have enough simple, unqualified people to do the low skilled jobs that were filled by eu immigrants. 50 years, we will all be dead....I mean fine. This will make us stronger as when we **** off our FRIENDS & PARTNERS we will then be able to ask those same people for individual deals that totally suit us. It's so bloody simple. Things are looking good.
And it's at a level where debate in Parliament is a legal necessity. Given the subject, this has to be added to the schedule this week or next, else the Speaker should have the power to make Government convene to discuss before proroguing takes place.
Despite thinking Brexit is a mad act of self inflicted pain with no upside, I don't get all the fuss about the prorogation. There are still a few days of Parliamentary time before Parliament is prorogued. In those days, the opposition can call a VONC (or try and push through Cooper Act v2 as emergency legislation). Either they have the votes to do this and stop no deal, which makes the prorogation irrelevant, or the opposition don't have the votes, which means they wouldn't have been able to stop no deal even if Parliament were sitting. If anything, if I were a leaver I'd worry that this may be a tactical mistake as the opposition 'remain coalition' were very split about the way forward, and this may unify them and sharpen their thoughts. I guess it's a calculated gamble on Cummings' part that they won't unify in time, but I fail to see how it's undemocratic, personally.
