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Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by MIGHTY, Oct 1, 2017.

  1. Whitejock

    Whitejock Well-Known Member

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    Bit confused here.

    Perhaps I've misread, but did I read references to the Brexit Party being involved in politics post Halloween? If so, who on earth is going to vote for a single issue party that's achieved it's single aim?
     
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  2. 2020VisionofLeeds

    2020VisionofLeeds Well-Known Member

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    if anyone want the details of your local Pro EU organisation, in preparation for your Damascene conversions sometime after 31 October, PM me (I’ll keep it quiet, don’t worry). I have most of them.
     
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  3. 2020VisionofLeeds

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    Don’t worry, you’ll still be a mock jock whatever happens.
     
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  4. 2 pennth

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    Don't hold your breath waiting <laugh>
     
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  5. Whitejock

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    Even if true it would be a million times better than being english. :D
     
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  6. 2020VisionofLeeds

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    Th
    is this evidence of the new kinder politics. Chesh would have advised me to hold my breath
     
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  7. 2 pennth

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    Not really we just need someone left to eat their words
     
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  8. 2020VisionofLeeds

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    It is, and it isn’t <ok> ;)
     
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  9. 2020VisionofLeeds

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    I have most of this forum cast for that role. You dim witted ****ers are going to have to do some back pedalling to get out of responsibility for this monumental ****Fest
     
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  10. 2020VisionofLeeds

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    In answer to your earlier question I assume if we leave no deal then have GE there’s no role for Brexit Party. On other scenarios there may still be.
     
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  11. dbc

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    Well that for me might be key - Tories I think will want a snap election - a majority of 1 will be gone soon and better to announce election than have it forced on you- espcially in chaos post no deal. So they will want to have just left and then have election as then there is no point to Brexit party.

    However surely no one now thinks a deal is an option? Unless Boris can get a backstop through parliment (which only seems likely if the alternative is No Brexit) then it will be no deal coupled with what they're already doing - blaming the EU for no deal.

    If it's no deal then parliment will do everything it can to stop it and if it's nucelar option of no deal then the opposition will go for nuclear option of VONC - then the main thing will be how to stop no deal happening by default during an election which is where a GONU might come in unless legislation can achieve the same.

    So if it was an election after 31 October and we haven't left then suddenly Brexit party becomes a major player again. Tories will go for a it's a remainer parliment stopping us from carrying out Brexit so make sure you show them who's in control by voting for us to deliver it. But Brexit party will go for that's two times the deadline has been missed (complete with all the times the Tories have said no ifs and no but's we're leaving by 31 October) and so you can't trust the Tories to deliver Brexit.
     
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    I think the crunch time will be beginning of September as both sides have a very slim window - I think if the Tories can get an election before 31 October or the day after then they might go for it as there is a majority in parliment to stop No Deal. However it's turning that majority into something useful that actually stops it which will be the remainers weakness.
     
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  13. FORZA LEEDS

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    UK General Elections are by law always held on a Thursday, and it so happens that the first available Thursday is October 31st, so the UK will have left the EU by the following day whatever happens.

    It just gets worse and worse for you lot :biggrin:
     
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    Sounds to me as tho' you are getting angry at the distinct possibility of us leaving, calm down dear it'll be alright in the end just you wait and see
     
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  15. dbc

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    Under fixed term act then elections are held on the first Thursday in May every 5 years but as for other elections it's apparently convention rather than law

    'A 1 November election would mean it took place straight after Brexit day. It falls on a Friday rather than a Thursday but I am told that this isn’t a problem — it is just another convention that elections take place on Thursdays.' https://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/08/were-heading-for-a-1-november-election/

    The issue here is purdah - the convention again is that during an election a government should not make any major decisions that would effect the incoming PM/government - but this again is convention rather than legal and Cummings has made it clear he's willing to ignore this convention but in doing so he has alerted the opposition that it's the governments plan so they can try and stop it - as I said in post above - question will be can they actually stop it.

    Their is also a risk in holding an election on the day after Brexit as if there is **** going down it might not be the best backdrop for an election - so then it's a case of do they value being in government or Brexit more
     
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  16. 2020VisionofLeeds

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    You don’t know me very well. That’s me being friendly. I’m actually less pissed off since I came to terms with the fact we are about 70% likely to leave in 2019.

    I must admit I am almost looking forward to the Leaver crew trying to wriggle out of responsibility for the nightmare that is coming our way. Almost ..... it’s my country too.
     
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  17. FORZA LEEDS

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    Ok fair enough but if the earliest date is 1st November and the UK had left the EU the day before then that’s the best possible outcome for Johnson and he’ll no doubt win the election.
     
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    Well it defintely would nullify the Brexit party threat but as I say the two risks are, one having the election on the day after we have left - ports blocked, flights ****ed etc (there was talk of having it as a bank holiday to prevent the markets tanking) and secondly the fact that the opponents of no deal know this is the plan so will be prepared to go to equally nuclear in their options to prevent it.
     
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    A STFU would be good, Only jokin as I intend reminding you every day we are out. <whistle>
     
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    Why would anyone want an election after we have left. <yikes> it's too late we've left,
     
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