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He's still gained an unfair advantage from the fact its come off a fellow attackers arm.

 

bollocks - must remember to actually type "not"

 

simple question - if it had brushed a defenders arm then was cleared by another defender would it have been a penalty ?.

 

Because Spurs were clinical, and Citeh were wasteful.
Possession may be nine tenths of the law, but putting the ball in the
net is 100% of the score.

 

But how come if a goal is not scored a foul isn't given ? Surely either an action is a foul or not a foul anywhere on the pitch?

 

There's a rule for that and the answer is No.

Look I'm not saying its a good rule, but its the rule that's being enforced from this season. You can't go around saying the goal should have stood or that it wasn't handball, cause there is a specific rule that says No goal and handball. And its a rule for all English teams.

Side point, its nothing to do with VAR really, just that VAR can spot it.

 

The rule is an ass.

 

I would assume cause the defence has been able to clear the ball, therefore no advantage has been gained.

Look I don't make the rules, this is the rule the FA have chosen to implement this season

 

The bit I can't get my head round is why it doesn't apply the other way round, it's like different rules for different areas of the pitch and situations.

Do they take it back as well?

Oh it was a good goal but it struck the guys arm accidentally before he crossed it in...

 

all i pointed out was it isn't handball it's just they won't allow a goal to be scored i those circumstances . However I would argue it seems odd that it only works in the defending teams favour .
Just accept i'm turning into a grumpy old man who thinks all change is bad with the exception of goal line technology.

 

Video killed the Guardiola

 

Just seen the replay again. If it doesn't hit Laporte's arm it goes straight to Ndombele and Spurs clear it. The hand changes the trajectory of ball by alot.

As to whether people believe the rule should be as it is the debate. However to the rules it should be chalked off.

 

Rule makes sense to me. Can’t have situation where someone scores or assists with their hand. Whether intentional or not. Happens in hockey so

 

Yeah, but the same rule exists if it comes off a defenders arm yet no penalty is given. It's either handball or it isn't, the offender should make no difference.

 

I'm going assume your talking proper Hockey (not that ****e on ice)

Rule is for Foot/leg rather than hand (If the hand is on the stick technically its classed as part of the stick, Arm is a foul though). Yes if the ball hits your foot then a goal can't be scored, but then if it hits your foot anywhere on the pitch its a foul intentional or not.

 

No it’s not the same rule. If it comes off a defenders arm and then the attacking team score it’s a goal. It’s only a free kick if it comes off an attacking teams player arm and assists them in scoring.

 

It's not a free kick mate because it isn't classed as handball.

 

Depends whether the arm is in a natural position or not

 

I think this is the point exactly. As long as it is applied equally across the entire season, we can only complain about the rule....not VAR in this instance.

If I were Pep, the real focus of his attack on VAR should be about the non penalty given by the ‘tackle’ on Rodri. It’s in cases like this and even the penalty rewarded to Chelsea during the week that a lot of subjectivity still exists.