Teams which play with wing backs don't normally have both bombing forward at the same time; if one goes forward the other hangs back to maintain a rearguard of 3. Our problems stem from Aarons and Lewis simultaneously joining in our offensive plays. If Farke wants them to continue to do that, then we need Amadou (or TT or KM) to stay back and form the 3. Robertson and Alexander-Arnold were Liverpool's key weapons last Friday, but they were very disciplined in holding back and maintaining the line with Gomez and Van Dijk if the other was bombing forward.
What a load of old tosh, No not what you said RER or General, the other nonsense that's been said about Hanley's reaction. The way I see it is he took a few moments to sort his head out and then just got on with the game. I saw nothing in his play after the restart that suggested he let his disappointment in himself effect the rest of his game.
What a numpty - https://readnorwich.com/2019/08/15/...ation-are-his-concerns-valid/?poll-results=1i Is he related to Karren Brady. 90% of respondents think @ncfc will survive. #nuffsaid
Do we care if we get relegated? Personally I enjoyed last season as much as any in the last 47 that I have been following the team. Getting relegated after a season when we scored a lot of goals and put up a good fight against the money men would be acceptable. Probably more so than a dour season of 1-0 defeats and the occasional 1-0 win especially as this would mean going into 20/21 with a team more than capable of ripping the Championship apart . I say keep the faith with Farkeball and hang the risks. At least we won't end up back down with a team of expensive liabilities to maintain. As I said in an earlier post Holloway did it with Blackpool and came within an ace of survival back in 2011. One piece of luck or a VAR decision on a goal that the big boys would have been gratuitously granted by supine referees and we survive without doing a Fulham...or a Villa? Oh, and I notice that Lawrenscum didn't mention Pukki this week.
But is he really? If we were outsiders to another club doing it our way I'm sure we would think them highly likely to get relegated (As much as we impressed last season we still weren't exactly solid at the back!). What Owen and all the others are doing is playing the percentages and following perceived wisdom, some of this wisdom comes from observations of the past. As a promoted club there is a perceived big gap to bridge. So one that doesn't lavish money on players percieved to be better and PL quality is going to be favourites for the drop. Without our Norwich insider hats on, I really don't see why its an unreasonable conclusion. Losing to Liverpoo with a creditable performance but exposing our soft underbelly gives us little evidence that we might survive although it was encouraging to carry a threat going forward, of course losing to European champions and 1 of the 2 unbeatables tells us little either way. We did as expected, lost and at 4-0 at half time had done so rather early in the game. I, like the pundits am far from certain we will have enough to survive. OK I think we have and hope we will but, it is not clear cut and our collective optimism owes much to yellow tinted specs. As to Farked's 'Do we care if we get relegated?' Hell yes! I want the boys to prove the naysayers wrong. I want to at least have the chance to see: Max, Emi, Godfrey et al ply their trade at City for longer. The only way they and perhaps others will grace CR in 20/21 is if we stay up......or fail so horribly that no one will touch any of them! And I don't like that latter example. So whilst it wouldn't be a disasater to go down and the Championship offers us a tantilising prospect of a title tilt. The PL at least for a while, with continuous improvement and Farke's good footy is the place to be. The good footy being the key, I can take the more often than not beatings and scrapeing survival as long as we play good footy. As Farked says, playing for 1-0's is no fun and is what will always render Hootun and others as short term solutions. No fan wants that magnolia football indefinitely. Bah!
Terrific post General and sound reasoning. Yes, I guess I was wearing my 'yellow and green tinted specs' and Owen was just going along with all of the other pundits. In reality, until we've played 3 or 4 of the teams likely to be in the bottom half of the table, it's difficult to judge where we might end the season. At least I don't see us playing 'not to lose' football.
That's what I think too. Look at the first round of results. Lots of folks tipping Brighton to struggle this season. 3-0 away to Watford who were perceived as probable midtablers. ShefUtd also tipped to struggle, an away point at Bournemouth is decent but probably doesn't tell us any thing more than we knew. They will scrap for survival and can compete with teams in the lower half. Villa losing to Spurs 3-1 much like our result tells us very little and they will still be optimistic when facing off against the rest of us in the bottom half. The pundits have to say something and put opinions out their to get paid. Some will inevitably be more diligent in forming those opinions than others. But the diligent ones are not just that because they have tipped us to survive. They will hopefully have seen a little more than a few highlights from last season and thought either we have or haven't enough to survive. Most do not strike we as anything more than highlights watchers, but this is why we will only change their minds with points on the board. Bah!
I can see Farked's point, but GM is right that we'll lose our most exciting players if we go down. We have a tough start to the season but I'm confident because of our squad quality and depth. As injuries occur, other teams will fall back on squad players whereas virtually every City player is competing to start, which is one of SW's masterstrokes. We have few players left from previous managers and those, like Tettey and Klose, fit well into Farkeball. Newcastle will give us a better idea of our chances and the unknown element is Amalou. If he fits in and realises his potential we could end up doing very well.
The pundits generally know little about us because we haven't been playing in the Premier. The one who does, however, is more than a little fed up with his colleagues: https://www.edp24.co.uk/sport/norwich-city/iwan-roberts-on-liverpool-1-6217026 Well done Iwan!
I have noticed your misspelled attempt at Amadou on several occasions, is it some sort of literary joke, a typo or do you really not know his name? Asking for a friend
Well yes, that is exactly what they are doing. But you might then ask why they are dignified with the title "pundits". After all, any Tom, Dick, Harry, Mary or Elizabeth can "play the percentages"; it's a comfortable way of being right more often than wrong. But shouldn't a "pundit" try to do rather more than that? Shouldn't they be asking themselves: "Does this team have anything about it that might make it an exception to the rule?" Furthermore, shouldn't a pundit be expected to recognise that the Championship has been evolving in recent years in ways that mean the percentages are almost certainly altering? A third of the teams in the division this season have non-British managers; three of them (Bielsa, Bilić, Cocu) are proven at the highest level in continental leagues. They are coaching their teams to play a brand of football far removed from the traditional style of "the English Championship". Football in this country is evolving; the only thing that doesn't seem ever to evolve is the banality of 95% of the punditry to which we are subjected by the our media.
Very true Robbie. It's interesting that Iwan, a pundit who does know about us has picked us to finish 15th. Also Frank Lampard, who had first hand knowledge of our team last year, picked us to finish 11th. Not all of them play the percentages, but most do - it's easier than actually looking at our team.
I totally agree Robbie, but as long as their employers accept their name before their ability to state anything more than the blindingly obvious it will perpetuate. As for Ewan, he is as likely to be saying Norwich will stay up because of his city connections rather than incite. He's hardly impartial. Bah!
That's possible, but Iwan tends to tell it as it is and hasn't held back from being critical of the club in the past. Any pundit favours the club(s) he played for but should rise above that when predicting. I know that many don't, but I don't think Iwan is one of them.
Mentioned on Canary call yesterday that Pukki has now joined Craig Bellamy and Chris Martin on the all-time scorers list with 34. And he's only been here ten minutes!
