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Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by leez, Aug 11, 2019.

  1. leez

    leez Well-Known Member

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    Thoughts, so far lads
     
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  2. Toonitus

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    Its more fair than losing unfairly

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    Someone needs to tell almiron about it
     
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  3. leez

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    Not bad I thought , they said. It will slow the game down etc ( flow of the game )

    Well , after the first week all I see is the referee , is the one that slows games down and the players are the main reason time , gets wasted
     
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    At the end of the day, it’s the big boys who will suffer as they won’t get favouritism from the ref anymore. They will be the biggest beelers.

    It cuts out grey areas.
     
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    I want to believe that, but;

    Had that Wolves goal yesterday been say L'pool, I reckon that ball would have hit his shoulder rather than arm.....in the eye of the expert.
     
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    Ian Wright's not a fan I know that much. I thought for the first weekend it did the job and didn't hold up play that much at all. I haven't seen the wolves goal that was disallowed but from what I've read it was the correct decision, it seems that was the only game of the weekend where the VAR decision has actually determined the outcome of the game...i think people are of the opinion that it is gonna be more of a disruption than anything. I dont.

    Anything that awards us the penalties that we never seem to get given is a winner for me.
     
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    When you pay to go, and then can't celebrate a goal for 90 seconds because you are waiting for a check, that's when the game starts slipping away. Its coming. The idea of var is okay, the implementation is bad.
     
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  8. leez

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    i can see your point def . you get use to it man lol. when you think back last season .

    If it had not been used in the cl , then man city, could of been the winners of the champions league. which was wrong.
     
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    Course you can celebrate, it just might be short lived at times. I can't see how else it can be implemented. It seems every goal is going to be reviewed behind the scenes to check for fouls/off sides/handballs etc leading up to the goal.

    It gives us a bit of false hope now man. At least now when teams score against us we'll have that 90 seconds of hope that the VAR guys will have spotted something in the lead up to the goal ;-) I hate to coin the old cliche's but it will even itself out over the season.
     
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    Course you can celebrate, it just might be short lived at times
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    Wait till that happens a couple times. Then the atmosphere for games starts to die.
    Some things with var I get, but the search for a problem 25 seconds before the goal is scored rule is a twat, and that is the one which will cause the most problems. Its still down to human interpretation.
     
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    clock stopped ,like in basketball next . what you recon
     
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    Clock stopped, Budwieser advert. Yep, can see it now.
     
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    cronemeister Well-Known Member

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    This has got me thinking....what games/incidents can you remember that would have potentially had a different outcome back in the day had VAR been about?

    Hatem Ben Arfa leg breaks springs to mind for me. Nigel De Jong would surely have been sent off for that horror tackle.
    Callumn McManaman's horror tackle on Haidara should have been a red, he would have walked for that in my book.
    Shearer stamping on Neil Lennon (gerrin) - that would have been a sending off.
    Viduka's header vs Fulham would have been allowed and we would not have been relegated in 2009
     
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    Actually I can too.
    They will wrong every last penny out of the game until it gets discarded like a used tampon by Tricia from Seaham who finds out, late on a Saturday night in the Hastings Hill pub that she is on a promise.
     
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    Watch any game from the 90's, and using var you will be able to change the outcome. That's how many small details are in a game of football. Try and find a problem with a goal scored, and most of the time you can.
     
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  16. Rum & Black for 2

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    Shearer never stamped on Lennon. If I remember rightly Shearer was actually subjected to a ferocious and unprovoked attack by Neil Lennon who insisted on head butting Shearer's boot. An act that today would have seen Lennon immediately dismissed for violent conduct.
     
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  17. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Gonna take some time and patience. I'm for video technology if introduced responsibly.

    What I will say is the Man C game was a farce. You can't avoid that, some games will have a lot of incidents needing reviewed. VAR supporters who are militant about it don't want to hear it. That game showed the difference in video technology between a sport with natural stoppages and one without. Football is best when flowing and end to end. VAR undoubtedly does not help it. Given the recent softening of our attitude to physical input, and the impact that is already having with stoppages, VAR has the potential to compound it.

    I believe in VAR but I have doubts about its current use in football. We need to vastly reduce its use in my opinion or football will be changed for the worse forever.

    I'll choose to blame kids low attention spans. They like their sports in short sharp bursts so VAR gives them a chance to reset for the next section of play. I do this for no other reason than I like blaming younger generations for things as it really seems to get under their skin.
     
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  18. cronemeister

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    T ^^

    It's cos of how the game is now as to why VAR is needed. Wind back 10 years or more and there is literally no need for it. Football should be end to end, you're right. The poncy namby pamby ****ing players that (dis)grace our game these days are largley to blame for this as well. Not to mention the sky money of course.

    Can't believe VAR never picked up on Grealish's stupid ****ing headband and ordered the referee to send him off for his crime !!
     
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  19. Toonitus

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    Have people forgot how bad it is losing to a dive, offside goal or unfair red card ??? I think so
     
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  20. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Nope its why I'm in support of it. However if you watched West Ham vs Man C, it barely resembled a game of football. Complete farce. If that is what VAR brings then I'd take the bad decisions all day long.
     
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