I'll cut through all the bolloxs, if someone said to me who do you think were the greatest British club in your lifetime, I would say Liverpool, merely because of their run from the 70's into the mid 80's when they became invincible in Europe, it was only that sad tragedy that put a halt to their dominance. Don't get drawn in by all the bolloxs and marketing of the Premier League, some of the best football was played before 1992. You had Bill Shankly, Bob Paisley - not forgetting the players, Rush, Keegan, Dalglish, and the keeper with the wobbly knees! Don't be sold with what SKY might sell you, football existed much better before TV, and a lot of todays generation never got to witness it but more take what their sold as a package for their big fook of TV's. Man City, who were yer?
I agree with most of that, however that sad tragedy halted Everton's progress, as they were about to end Liverpool's reign with an excellent team. I reckon they would have won the European Cup too.
I can't remember tbph regarding Everton. However, I do remember going to see my lot play at Priestfield against Everton in the FA Cup, I think that was 1984, possibly the same year they went on to win it. @Tobes to confirm
It was mate. We went on to beat Oxford which saved Kendall’s job then beat Watford in the final. If was the springboard to success for that side. Won the league, cup winners cup and lost the FA cup final whilst still pissed up, the following season - cue Heysel.
I might have this wrong because i can't be asked to check. But I'm sure ITV had the footballing rights for live League matches before SKY. The reason I remember it was because my local newsagents, used to sell the Match Day Magazine/Programme on Sundays. I'm sure I remember from the magazine front covers, Liverpool and Arsenal being featured. Anyway some dickhead at ITV decided this wasn't going to work, then along came SKY....and as they say, the rest is history.
Technically speaking in the era we was discussing just now 70's through to mid 80's, i thought Man Utd were struggling, the Busby Babes were no more. Didn't they even get relegated to the OLD League Division Two (now the Championship).
Not sure what year that happened, but by far and away, those 2 are the biggest most famous clubs in England on world terms, the rest are small fry.
Steady on lads, the last half a dozen posts will have a devastating effect on Fosse. 2 weeks on holiday and a monkeys worth of booze is not going to num the pain.
Yeah on world platform term, mainly because of their European Cup wins, Man Utd being the first English club to win it. I sort of lost touch with the top tier after 1992, once SKY got it. I can always remember back in the day, we weren't like the Americans, I remember from my time in the states, it was all subscription and we had none of that, and games such as the NFL cost a fortune to watch, and all the sponsorship. Hence probably why i'm so outspoken these days about Tottenham, it was the days I never wanted to see, but hey that's what they call progress. But you ask any fans from back in the day if they loved the old grounds, and most will say yes. Hence why i've never wanted my club to move, even though the plans for it and the location have already been agreed. Not sure how I will feel if that day ever comes...maybe then it might be time to call it a day. We'll see.
All us older people will always prefer the old grounds,times have moved on, the new grounds look great, but have lost the soul of the game. But h&s comes first these days.
Not me mate, give me a new stadium any day. Better views, comfort and like was said earlier if you want a piss, you ain't wading through a small river
I can remember going to Swindon a few seasons back...now back in the day when i went there, it was noisy, hostile a proper atmosphere, it was so sad to see what it has become, dead and no soul whatsoever. Absolutely dire was the only words i could find to describe it, all the rivalry had gone, all the vocal support was no longer there, it was like a fooking graveyard.
I can see the merits off both mate. But matchdays used to be about atmosphere, getting bladdered, having a laugh, singing and shouting, missing half the game. Now they are sterile, but comfy with great facilities, and cracking views.
Who's ground was it (down at our level) where you had to walk through allotments to get to the away end?
Only ever been to Watford once, for a night cup game. You could well be right as I don't really remember?
