You appear to have omitted the mass knivings from your list. Knife crime is apparently comparable to gun crime, with a similar level of morbidity. Obv.
The Cumbria one occurred on June 2, 2010 and involved John Bird who killed 12 and injured 11 on his rampage around the Whitehaven area. We had travelled to Whitehaven that morning and then went to visit the Sellafield nuclear site to show my husband where I worked before leaving England in 1966. We were having lunch near Bootle when the news of the shooting broke and people were advised to quickly return home and not to venture outside until advised. It was our last day in the area and my cousin had arranged a farewell party that night for us at a restaurant near Millom. Fortunately the all clear was given in time to travel to the function. Later looking at the timeline of the route Bird took during his car drive he would have passed us as we were heading back from Sellafield. It was a memorable end to our week in Cumbria and the following day we headed off to our final destination before returning to Aus.... Hull for a week.
here's a parallel topic for you all to consider and possibly relate to the murder rate. how many abortions are there each year in the usa? how many abortions are there each year in the uk? clue: i was shocked.
You will be shocked by these figures then as there are worse countries. https://top5ofanything.com/list/eafb416e/Countries-with-the-Highest-Total-Number-of-Abortions
having seen how high the bar is for the usa and uk, the other figures aren't a shock. i always thought every case was and should be a tragedy, but having seen videos of women actually celebrating abortions, it's clear that many are using it as a regular means of contraception. the "fairer", "caring" sex, celebrating terminating a baby. more perspective on a world i'll never understand.
It is high in Russia because abortion was used almost as a method of contraception in the Soviet days and it has continued. Any girl getting pregnant didn't get a flat or benefits. They had to live with their parents in an overcrowded apartment with the extra child, the child was put in a crèche and they were back to work. No being a single mother as a lifestyle choice. China is high because of their policies regarding large families in their overcrowded country.Conversely Catholic countries like Italy and Spain saw low rates because of society’s disapproval of single girls getting pregnant and then more disapproval of abortion. The one that surprised me was how high the rate is in Vietnam,
If they banned guns tomorrow, the law abiding citizens would hand theirs over the crooks, baddies and loonies would hang onto theirs. Nothing is going to change any time soon.
Nobody is talking about banning guns though , some people are talking about stricter controls , very hard in the US because they do have a massive gun culture and a very strong lobby in favour
i'm guessing it's something to do with ending lives. the general topic had expanded beyond mass shootings.
I am glad I wasn't born I the USA because I was an idiot when younger and would have shot someone no doubt. No doubt one or two of my School teachers for giving me the cane as often as they did.
It's interesting here, basically, the grandparents are to look after their grandchildren, but their children have a responsibility to make money and to look after their parents and themselves and their children. When a couple marries, they go and live with the groom's parents and look after them, in turn when they have children, the grandparents look after them When the grandparents die, their children take over the house, and the cycle starts again. Families are therefore kept generally small, as there is just not enough room to have large families. There is very little welfare from the government, basically, people fend for themselves and their families. Having said all that, this may change in time. Vietnam, since it changed its policy to allow personal business to flourish, the country and standard of living are getting better all the time. So probably, when families can start to afford their own house, then things might change.
Interesting to see the contrast from somewhere right on our doorstep. Do you find it's the same in urban areas of the East Riding too?
