I find it a bit strange that you do not know the story? He knew for years about his brother and his da received a republican funeral despite protests from others
Is that it Medro? An ex Celtic player badly sings an IRA song and members of Gerry Adams' family have been abused and abusers? What point are you making?
medro that is the ****test video ever ... hes not singing hes posing and prancing about ... usually a singer doesnt block the mic or walk away from it chatting [video=youtube;chJcv5ysaTo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chJcv5ysaTo[/video] [video=youtube;nOHWgiLY_AM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOHWgiLY_AM[/video]
My point? Someone posted about McAvennie and spoke out about his recent boozy IRA ballad and the post you pictured of Adams, simply pointing out about the fella who kept quiet about his brother raping his daughter.
Think it only works if you're drunk though. Thank you God for putting the Irish on an island. Now if we could just find a way of keeping them there.
You spoke out about a Celtic player <not> singing an IRA song? Who are you to talk about dodgy music? You openly admit to loving what is probably the biggest bigoted festival in the world. You stil haven't posted anything to tell me that he kept quiet. The only think you linked was him having told her to go to the police and making a statement to them himself. I was going to list a few Orangmen caught at that kind of thing but I wont bother. Come on, we know you want to, roll out Torbett.
What is he sweeping? Do you think he really cares about a drunken ex Celtic player <not> singing an IRA song? You are getting desperate here Medro.
Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams has revealed his father sexually abused children in his family. The admission came in a radio broadcast yesterday, just hours after it emerged his younger brother Liam is wanted for child sex offences. Adams said he had known of his father's crimes for more than a decade. Six years ago the Sinn Fein president ensured that Gerry Adams senior was accorded a republican hero's funeral after his death aged 77. Adams told how his father, who had 13 children, engaged in 'the psychological and emotional and physical and sexual abuse of a child, of his child'. Last night it was claimed Adams senior had been nicknamed 'The Dirty Wee Man' and 'The Babysitter'. The IRA endorsed punishment beatings and 'knee- cappings' of petty criminals and sex offenders, yet questions are being asked about why members of the Adams family were apparently let off the hook. One critic, speaking anonymously, said last night: 'Adams's father got a full, republican funeral. The fact this was allowed to happen shows they were all protecting him, right up until the end - and protecting Gerry's career in the movement and his position of power as an MP, nothing else.' The extraordinary turn of events began when it was revealed Adams's brother Liam, in his 50s, had been accused by his daughter Aine Tyrell, 36, of sexually abusing her from the age of four. She first made the allegations in 1987 when she was 14 and has now waived her anonymity to make them in public - and to complain Adams has not given her the support she deserves in seeking justice. Adams claimed he had believed his niece's allegations from the beginning and said he had not seen his brother for 15 years until a series of meetings between 2002 and 2007. He has now urged Liam, who disappeared after failing to attend a Belfast court hearing more than a year ago, to come forward and meet police about 23 charges of abuse. Adams said: 'In the late 1990s we discovered that our father had been sexually, emotionally and physically abusing members of our family. This abuse happened over many years. This discovery and the abuse which preceded it have had a devastating impact on our entire family. 'We are still struggling to come to terms with what happened. Our family have debated for some time whether we should publicise our father's abusive behaviour.' Gerry Adams senior was in the vanguard of the republican movement and in 1942, at the age of 16, shot a Belfast policeman before being shot himself and jailed for eight years. He later helped his son gain prominence in the movement.
I honestly couldn't give a **** about McAvennie, my point was that he was hardly singing anything! So Adams kept quiet about about his brother raping his daughter or did he give a statement on her behalf to the PSNI & urged him to face the courts as your link stated?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...*****phile-brother--helped-work-children.html When night came, the terror started. Across Belfast, terrorist punishment squads scoured the streets for petty criminals. Screams and gunshots rang out after dark as summary justice was handed out. For so-called anti-social elements caught by these gangs, the punishments were lingering - and gruesome. No mercy was shown. Bundling the victim into a waiting car, the terrorists would take the suspect to a favourite secluded spot - a cemetery where IRA volunteers had been buried with full military honours as a salvo of bullets were fired into the air. There, in the dead of night, sentence would be pronounced, depending on the severity of the crime. A car thief might escape with a severe beating with baseball bats for a first offence. But regular offenders faced knee-capping. The victim was ordered to remove their trousers (to prevent infection from fibres forced into their flesh by a bullet) and shot in the back of the leg. Crippled for life, this served as a permanent warning to them and others. Drug dealers received a double knee-capping, while those seized by the Nutting Squad - a gang of sophisticated IRA killers who tortured suspected informers with power drills - rarely lived to tell the tale. Such brutal justice was commonplace - and sanctioned by the IRA leadership. At the height of the Troubles, a knee-capping was being carried out every night in Belfast, with more than 6,000 crippled. But by far the most grisly punishments were reserved for 'nonces' - sex offenders and child molesters, regarded as the lowest of the low. Indeed, the punishment squads were often superfluous to requirement, because gangs of locals would take the law into their own hands. In one case, a man was locked in a van with three savage dogs and torn to pieces. In another, a rapist was crucified by being nailed to a fence beside a busy road. Homes of suspected nonces were petrol-bombed by mobs. Yet the occupant of one terrace house remained unmolested, even though many people - police, social workers, politicians and locals - had heard dreadful gossip about what happened behind his front door. There was a simple reason this man was not attacked: a huge poster of Gerry Adams, the public face of the IRA, hung from his front window. And to make sure there was no confusion, the man would greet callers by asking: 'Do you know who my brother is?' For the occupant was Liam Adams, little brother of Gerry, kingpin of the organisation and a man who reached worldwide prominence when Margaret Thatcher ordered that his voice could not be broadcast in order to prevent the IRA benefiting from the 'oxygen of publicity'. Liam's warning sign worked. It made clear he was an IRA ' untouchable' on account of his family connections. Due to the prominence of Gerry and his father, Gerry senior, also a stalwart of the IRA, the Adams family was regarded as 'terrorist aristocracy' in Belfast. Such power meant that for more than three decades, Liam managed to escape retribution for the rape and sexual abuse of his daughter Aine, which began in the Seventies when she was just four and ended when she was ten. This week, Liam finally handed himself into the police to face sex abuse charges - 22 years after Aine first told 'Uncle Gerry' of the abuse. Why did Liam hand himself in? Only because his brother Gerry told him to do so after Aine went public with the abuse allegations for the first time in a TV interview. The truth is that Gerry Adams has spent the past two decades protecting his brother by covering up for his unspeakable crimes and persuading his niece to keep quiet about it - to 'keep it in the family' - in order to protect his own skin. Yesterday, appalled rape campaigners said Adams could have ended his niece's quest for justice years ago had he spoken out earlier. Yet he chose not to, for the sake of his political career. The disgust felt at Adams's behaviour is palpable in Ireland, a country reeling from the scandal of *****phile priests. The brutal facts, according to Aine, are as follows. From 1978, her father Liam used to beat up her mother Sally badly enough to make her run from the house - leaving him free to abuse Aine who, like most victims of *****philes, told no one. Sally eventually threw out Liam in 1983 and divorced him. It was only when Aine discovered her father had a new wife with another little girl to abuse that she told her mother, who went to the police. Aine was examined by police doctors, who confirmed she had been abused, but she says officers were more interested in recruiting members of the Adams family to act as informers than in helping her. She turned to Uncle Gerry for help, hoping he would punish her father for his unspeakable crimes. Instead, he tried to convince his niece it was her father who was the victim rather than her. Adams told Aine: 'Our Liam can't cope with life and I'm trying to get him to meet you, but you know he is a coward and might not want to do that.' Under pressure from some un-named Republicans, Aine withdrew her police complaint and tried to get on with her life. She had two children - but couldn't sleep with the light off or the door closed. By 2007, Aine was so fed up of being strung along by her uncle that she revived the police investigation. A warrant was issued for Liam's arrest in November 2008. Facing 23 specimen charges of rape and sexual assault, Liam went on the run. Aine finally spoke out last week because of the lack of any progress concerning his arrest. So compromised was Gerry Adams by her TV interview that he made a public appeal for Liam to come forward. But even though Liam voluntarily walked into a police station in Co. Sligo on Monday, he was allowed to walk free because of a legal loophole that meant the arrest warrant - issued in Northern Ireland - was not valid south of the Border. It is understood Liam told Gardai, the Irish police, he had been living in Northern Ireland, but had crossed the Border to surrender himself. As for Gerry, a pathological liar who denies to this day he has ever been a member of the IRA, he has claimed he did everything possible to try to help the child victim in the affair. Yet it was his brother he treated as a victim, rather than his niece. After Liam's divorce, Gerry backed his brother's decision to make a new start in life. He supported his new career working in youth clubs, where he would have easy, regular access to young girls and boys. Liam was appointed a youth worker at Clonard monastery in West Belfast, where Gerry attended Mass and was close friends with many of the priests, some of whom he would invite to his home nearby. As the scandal erupted this week, the Sinn Fein leader said he had warned the priests about Liam's unsavoury past - a claim angrily denied by officials and clergy at the monastery. 'We have no record of Gerry Adams giving us any of this type of information,' says a monastery official. 'There is no record whatsoever regarding concerns about Mr Liam Adams during his time of employment at Clonard Youth Centre.' Last night, Adams had again changed his story, claiming he was appalled to learn that his brother had been working with children - and that 'if I had been aware, I would have tried to stop it'. He also claims he was 'estranged' from Liam for 20 years after Aine told him of the sex abuse and that they rarely met or spoke. This, too, is a lie. Gerry Adams was pictured at Liam's second wedding in 1994, smiling happily, during the two decades they were allegedly estranged. Alongside the brothers was Joe Cahill, a senior Republican, who wore a green ribbon in support of IRA prisoners. Gerry Adams also paid official visits to youth projects where his brother worked, guaranteeing Liam publicity to help his political ambitions and the potential to raise funds in the community. While a youth development worker at one project, Liam Adams hosted a visit by their local MP - one Gerry Adams - who unveiled a mural and talked about the pressures that can lead to young people committing suicide.
Liam Adams, who is now in his 50s, handed himself into police after a public appeal by his brother Adams also refused to intervene when Liam announced he planned to help vulnerable Romanian orphans. And so he was able to travel to Romania and invite groups of children back to Belfast - with minimal supervision. Liam coveted publicity. Despite being a secret *****phile and child rapist, in 1996 he garnered favourable headlines by threatening to expose a ring of wealthy perverts he claimed were abusing children. 'We have the names of several business people, who we are 100 per cent sure are involved,' Liam said. 'The authorities should be doing more to investigate, using the evidence that has come to light.' But then Gerry helped his little brother from the moment he heard of the abuse from Aine. Indeed, he tried to help him carve out a political career of his own. While the pair were 'estranged', Gerry reportedly even helped arrange for Liam to become a Sinn Fein candidate in Dundalk - only for local officials to rebel at an 'outsider' from Belfast being imposed on them by Adams and the leadership. In a cynical bid for sympathy, Gerry Adams claimed this week that his family had also been the victims of sexual and physical abuse by his father Gerry senior, who was buried with full military honours in Belfast six years ago. Adams says he discovered the news about his own father - a thug known as 'Monkey' on account of his simian features - while trying to 'sort out' the business with Aine. He refused to say whether Liam Adams was abused. Had the *****phile scandal emerged at the height of the Troubles, commentators believe Adams would have been thrown out of the IRA. Yet his position as an MP is now under threat amid a welter of new allegations exposing him as a liar. In a damning new book to be published about the secret life of Gerry Adams, there will be revelations about his role in the case of The Disappeared - an infamous case involving the IRA murder of a dozen civilians. This will finally nail the lie of Adams's denial of his involvement with the IRA, not to mention revealing the existence of secret tapes about his involvement in the killing of Jean McConville, a mother of ten suspected of being an informer. With his brother facing arrest and his niece pouring scorn on him, the past is at last coming back to haunt Adams. The question is now whether his lies and special pleading will be enough to save him from political destruction.
So a family kept it a secret that some of them were abused? I would imagine that would apply to a hell of a lot of people Medro. You took a bit of a doing in a thread so decide to use a wee girl getting sexually abused by her Da in defence. Well done you, I'm sure she would be happy.
Sexual abuse within a family is still a crime in case you didn't know. As the other article will point out, it wasn't just his own family that were at danger. Post pictures of Gerry Adams and expect to see the truth about this man.
As disgusting a crime as it is, Ciaran is right that it is not the first time a family has kept abuse a secret. There have been many cases over the years and that is the real tragedy in all this.
