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Ashley Interview - Staying Forever

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  1. Albert's Chip Shop

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    With Martin Samuel in the Daily Fail.

    MIKE ASHLEY EXCLUSIVE: 'I think I could own this club forever' - In a rare and explosive interview, the Newcastle United owner talks to Sportsmail's Chief Sports Writer Martin Samuel
    By Martin Samuel for the Daily Mail22:00, 26 Jul 2019, updated 22:11, 26 Jul 2019

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    Mike Ashley is reflecting on his 12 years at Newcastle. 'I'm a negative to that football club,' he says, without a hint of self-pity.

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    'It's not a secret. I don't feel sorry for myself. It is down to me, not Newcastle. I give myself one out of five in some aspects because I made proper mistakes, and football isn't a very forgiving place. I didn't just shoot myself in the foot; I blew my own leg off.

    'People would look at me and think I'd gone temporarily insane. They didn't know what I was doing. Will I be there, first game of the season? Maybe.

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    Mike Ashley (pictured) has revealed all about his ownership of Newcastle over the last 12 years
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    Ashley has come under intense scrutiny, with Newcastle fans protesting against his ownership
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    'What I don't want is for it to be negative. Why would I go if it causes the fans an issue? If I'm not there, maybe they can get behind Steve Bruce and get on with it. That's probably better. I don't want people to think I'm making it worse. I don't want people to be asking how our players can perform in these conditions. I don't want them booing every two minutes.'

    The low point for Ashley was a game at St James' Park when the fans chanted his name. The Sunderland fans, in the away end, raucously celebrating a win by singing "There's only one Mike Ashley".

    He winces. 'That was a really tough day,' he adds. 'I could hear it and I'm thinking, "Mike, this is bad. This is really, really bad". I've got to admit, I was struggling with that.'

    Despite this - despite the best part of a decade of it - Ashley still describes himself as an optimist, a dreamer, excitable when it comes to football. And many will scoff, not least those who would run him out of Tyneside on a rail, for mismanagement, for lack of investment, for a perceived charge sheet that could cross to Gateshead and back again.

    Yet when he talks about football, the moment he moves away from the dry, pragmatic, financial responsibility of running Newcastle, a different man can be seen. The travelling England fan who floated his company and bought a Premier League football club for the fun, and the hell, of it. Who appointed Kevin Keegan because why on earth wouldn't he? Ashley talks more like the average punter standing behind the goal than 90 per cent of the folk who populate boardrooms.

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    He is still capable of unimagined enthusiasms and leaps of faith - writing in a £20million bonus for the players if Newcastle won the FA Cup several seasons ago, giving Alan Pardew an eight-year contract - of being utterly enchanted by the passionate emotions of his new manager, or the potential in some bright young thing.

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    Newcastle just broke their club-record transfer deal on Joelinton, signing him for £40million
    MIKE ASHLEY ON RAFA BENITEZ
    EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW - MARTIN SAMUEL

    Mike Ashley insisted on Friday night that it was 'impossible' for Newcastle to have kept Rafa Benitez – and that the former manager was determined to take a lucrative deal to China from the start.

    Ashley revealed he even floated the idea of an eight-year contract with Benitez at a meeting on May 16, and that the manager's refusal to commit could have cost the club record signing Joelinton.

    Newcastle's owner spoke out following criticism of the breakdown in talks with Benitez – who he admits did an 'excellent' job – and criticism from the former boss following his appointment at Dalian Yifang in a deal worth £12m-a-year.

    And he said: 'If you come out and say the things he did you would think it was football club first, Rafa second, money third. I'd say it was money first, Rafa, then the club last. He took the totally soft option, took the money and went to China. That disappoints me. If he'd gone back to Real Madrid, or a top six club in the Premier League, I get it. But it was about money and all he had to do was say that from the beginning.

    'My view always was we had to keep Rafa. For my own personal safety we had to keep Rafa. I thought he had us offside, he had us cornered, it wasn't fair, it wasn't right, I've been totally out-manoeuvred, I probably shouldn't own a football club, it's ridiculous, but I'm a big boy.

    'Yet every time with Rafa it was impossible – there was always another thing, and the next thing, and the next thing. He asked for a 50 per cent pay increase and I think he did that because he knew it couldn't work. And if we had agreed to that, I think it would have been something else. And everyone thinks we lost him because we wouldn't pay a couple of quid more. He had the microphone and we didn't.

    'I'm not disappointed in him as a manager – he did an excellent job. It puzzles me why any fan thinks I wouldn't want him. I'm not the thickest person on the planet. Why wouldn't I want excellence? Why wouldn't I want this manager? Accuse me or many things, but not that. We couldn't have done any more.

    'At one stage they were talking about a one-year extension and I said my preference would be for an eight-year contract. That's what I have to do in business when I invest. I have to take a medium to long-term view. I don't worry about my takings on a Saturday. And we are now talking planning and strategy. So if you really want me involved, I need time from you, too. And that was the idea. I did it before with Alan Pardew.

    'Looking back, though, it doesn't really matter what Rafa asked for because I think the Chinese thing was done. He had talked about what he could earn in China previously. We were not even slightly surprised by that move.'

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    He made a two-hour stop-off at the training ground this week and came back talking of breaking some of his stricter rules of engagement to see if he can light a spark in the club this season. Ashley broke the club's transfer record for Joelinton in July, having already done so for Miguel Almiron in January.

    'I go to the training ground, hot day, all lovely - you can't help getting carried away,' he says. 'I'm like, 'What can I do to help? Can we get another one in? What's he like, is he fast?' It's one of the amazing things about owning a football club, the way you get caught up. It's like someone has put something in your coffee. You look around, you want to lift the place, hit the ground running. I hope we're not finished at Joelinton.'

    With Ashley's circumstances at Newcastle, however, there is always a deeper reasoning to consider.

    'What I fear, from the club's point of view, is to make a promise and then something goes wrong,' he adds. 'It's a big issue of reputation for the club because of my ownership. If that happens, people think we were never serious, that it's a stunt. If we get something wrong, or it doesn't happen for whatever reason, it becomes worse than not doing anything at all.'

    Plainly, Ashley is torn. He hasn't got the fortune required to make Newcastle competitive at the top of the table, but he does dream of delivering more than a decent balance sheet.

    On the day of our conversation, Tottenham had signed a shirt deal worth £45m each season, across eight years. 'Er, OK,' says Ashley. 'That is many, many times what Newcastle can get. We're not anywhere near that – nobody is, outside the top six. And I'm being told Liverpool could get £100m for the same deal.
     
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  2. YAJERK

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    Wow, some really interesting words. I take one big thing away from that, Mike Ashley is a lying dickhead.

    If anybody is taken in by that spin-war tripe, after what he has done (or failed to do), they need to give their heads a wobble.

    I'm one of the minority that could understand his limited ambitions as owner, but you don't get to stifle the club and then go ****ing crying to the media for sympathy. Skulk like the useless twat you are.
     
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    You could of supported Rafa in the previous transfer windows like you said you fat fook, "every penny the club generates" Eat sh*t Mike you lying d*ckhead!!!
     
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  5. LiamO

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    Hey Ho. More bollocks!!
    But on a good note, Datça is amazing. Got burnt to **** today, like a true Englishman!
    Coming here again next year.
    Looking at property as well.
    I love Turkey<cheers>
     
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  6. Sheikh_of_Araby

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    He's a rabbit in headlights. The planned boycott is having an effect.
     
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  7. missingno

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    No it’s not.
     
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    Yes it is, he did the same last year when boycotts where planned, he’s not ****ing stupid. Anyone who thinks Joelinton is nothing more than a trophy signing to paper over the cracks, appease fans and generate more season ticket sales is as ****ing deluded as that fat ****bag!!

    Of course if he wants to sign Mbappe, Neymar and Messi to paper over the cracks a bit more I won’t mind in the slightest, doesn’t change the fact that he’s a ****bag tho!

    He must think we’re as ****ing stupid as he is!
     
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  9. Delusional Full Stop

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    IMO I believe it is.

    1. We wouldn’t have spent £40M on Joey. We have had similar opportunities in the past, eg Aubeyemang for one but could never find the line until now.
    2. Cashiers interview with the Fail. Again why now.
    3. The PR offensive from Cashley and cronies as he’s losing the media
    4. The reduced season tickets number as that money does count. It’s a small portion of the total income but it’s still £24M.
     
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  10. leez

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    The man is a parasite , liar etc. Get out of toon
     
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    What I don’t get from the man is if he communicated with us like he does with the masses then it would then come across as more truthful.

    This is spin **** not to us but to the rest. Look at me. Everyone I’m doing my best.... snigger.

    He’s a clever man with people in the right places. The timing of this interview is perfect for him. He plays the pantomime villain here perfectly. At the end he was probably expecting a round of a applause and an rose at his foot.
     
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    A nugget included in the reporting is that “Newcastle have a record of their correspondence with Benitez which includes the openness to an eight-year deal, and a pledge of £20million to improve training facilities"

    Why would he have to make a pledge to Rafa to improve training facilities.
    Improvement should be a matter of course, not leaving it to rack and ruin
    LIAR LIAR LIAR
     
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    Constant lies throughout.
    There were no bids...... There was a bid from UAE.
    SD gets the unallocated sections then says they have an agreement in place.
     
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    Anyone unsure as to Boycotting can't be in doubt anymore - more lies, more bullshit, more KBA spun rubbish. Just about everything there can be proven a lie and I hope BZG and Rafa come out and nail him to a cross for it!
     
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    But, without checking it up, didn't he promise to spend on the training facilities when Rafa first came...but he never has.

    Obvious PR spin as no "hard" questions. Haven't you promised to upgrade training facilities before now? Why haven't you done it? Why did you need to pledge spending £20M on training facilities as opposed to simply doing it? You promised Rafa "every penny generated, why then did the Club make a profit on transfer fees in the last window? Why have you paid up front when purchasing but accept instalments on sales? etc etc
     
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    Whenever the fat **** pops up doing interviews it’s around the time of season ticket sales or fan unrest.

    The pressure needs to be kept on.
     
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    **** off you fat pleb
     
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