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  1. Roo

    Roo Well-Known Member

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    Agreed.

    Eriksen going the other way as part of the Dybala deal is the only way I can see this transfer happening, as the value of each player won’t be too far apart.
    I think someone else said it, but it just seems like it’s a smokescreen to get Betis to lower their Lo Celso demands.
     
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  2. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    FWIW, Dybala AND Lo Celso is doable from a financial perspective. It's just whether we could actually persuade Dybala to join.

    There's arguably two summer's worth of spending to do this summer. In the past two seasons, we've netted around £160m in CL prize money alone, if you say about 70% of that would go towards transfers, there's arguably £110m to spend, add in Trippier, Dembele and Janssen's sales, that's about £150m. Minus the Ndombele and Clarke buys and it's around £80m. Lo Celso would cost similar to Ndombele give or take a few £m either side and so say there's £20m left over from CL and departures. Dybala would cost £80m-£90m meaning a possible net spend of £60m-£70m. When you factor in Prem TV money and anything else the club puts towards transfers, that net spend is even less and so it's very much feasible to afford them.
     
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  3. Roo

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    I don’t doubt it’s affordable. - interestingly enough the Dybala link has conveniently picked up speed since the £300m+ AIA kit sponsor deal.

    But I just don’t buy it.
    As I said, maybe this summer is going to see us operating in a different way. But I need to see it to believe it, and time is running out.
     
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  4. Rebelspur

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    Next couple of weeks will tell a lot .

    Spurs have moved to the next level in terms of sponsorship, the kit deal more or less covers repayments on the stadium for the next 8 years and we are still waiting on the mega money coming from the naming of NWHL .
    The money is there for big signings its just a matter of getting them done if possible .
     
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    Lo Celso Watch
    Mucho Deporte have...stated that he'll be arriving in London in the next few days

    Dybala Watch
    Two notable things here
    i.) Calcio Mercato report that Juve have made him available for transfer, which (in theory...) strengthens our position, especially as Juve need to raise funds to balance their FFP
    ii.) Tuttosport report that Dybala is interested in a new challenge...or not having to be consistently dropped in order for the Oily Rat to get all the focus

    Toby Watch
    The Mirror report that we have opened contract talks with him following the expiration of his release clause

    N'Geme Watch
    ...otherwise known as the exact moment an ITK sees their follow count has started dropping significantly
     
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  6. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    I think we've already operated in a different way. We signed Clarke and Ndombele before any player was sold. We're usually a team that prefers to sell in order to buy, whereas we've bought - then sold when necessary - and I think that's the financially comfortable level we've been hoping to get to for years under Levy. We still can't go all gung-ho like some of the elite but we can definitely now start looking at players who are gonna cost £50m+ and be like "I'll have a bit of that" instead of usually thinking along the lines of "right, if we sell x,y and z, we can then make a move".

    It feels like we've levelled up financially, if that makes sense(?) and so for me personally, I don't see much point in looking at past windows as a way to judge how we'll approach this and future ones.
     
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  7. PleaseNotPoll

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    players.
     
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  8. humanbeingincroydon

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    Technically it could be argued that we did sell before we bought, albeit on a longer timeline: £11m for Dembele in January, plus an estimated £5m for Bennetts, Griffiths, Madueke and Walkes on top, which all covers Jack Clarke's fee quite nicely
     
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  9. The RDBD

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    Either of them coming (Dybala not being silly money) is achievable
    with the transfer kitty available. Both of them means Eriksen is out the door.

    Sales of the "deadwood" play no part whatsoever in any of the above scenarios.
     
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  10. humanbeingincroydon

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    It's possible is we somehow convince Juve that Victor Wanyama is, in fact, N'Golo Kante

    We'd probably dupe Leonardo Bonucci, at the very least...
     
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    Dybala and Lo Celso Watch
    La Nacion report we're looking to sign both of them

    Somehow people still assume this automatically means Eriksen is leaving, yet continue to overlook that this clearly spells the end for Lamela's time at the club (and Edwards'...but as he's training with Brentford, we sort of guessed as much)

    Parallel to this, ABC (the Spanish one, not the American one) report that Lo Celso has handed in a transfer request
     
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  12. Spurlock

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    This is going to be a 'called it' moment if we pull it off
     
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  13. The RDBD

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    Lamela will not bring in the money to sign both, without a key player being sold.
    No amount of Levying on the deadwood, even if today was day 1 of the transfer
    window, is going to make up the shortfall.
     
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  14. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    You can claim to be ITK too.
     
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  15. The RDBD

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    Going to be a 'call you Grealish gobsh*te' moment, if Spurs do not. :)
     
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  16. The RDBD

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    PNP watch day N :

    - Still no NEW AM
    - Sessignon activity gone quiet
     
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  17. Roo

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    Yep, true. There’s definitely been a bit more of an adventurous approach this time for the reasons you mention.

    When all is said and done (bought and sold in this case), I’ll be astounded if there’s a net spend of £100m+, even if we can afford it. We may have broken our record with Ndombelé, but will it be leveled out somewhat in the end by the total from the sales of Trippier, Rose + deadwood? I guess we’ll know come deadline day.
    All I’m saying is that the jump from no net spend to the huge figures being thrown around just seem highly unlikely, and past experience is probably the best thing we have to go on.

    Fingers crossed the rumours are true. It would be one hell of a change. And a bloody exciting one at that!
     
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  18. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    It definitely breaks our usual mould but I think that's exactly what we've been building up for. Levy himself said in the interview after the AIA extension that we embarked on two capital projects and that it was now time to start looking at success on the pitch not just off it. It'd be a monumental statement to sign the two of them, Dybala especially but maybe this is the turning point for Spurs in terms of convincing the elite to join? And I think that will biggest stumbling block, not the financials but just persuading Dybala to leave a title and trophy winning team to join one that's hoping to become that sort of side.
     
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  19. PowerSpurs

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    The new stadium creates at least £100m more profit per season. The CL run and the period at Wembley create another £100m. So we could spend a net £150 -£250m this year without running into ffp problems. Whether we will is another matter but the previous constraints are gone.
     
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    The figures are mouth watering. I really hope you’re both right. <ok>
     
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