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  1. Treble

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    I reckon whoever invented Alexa and the rest must have grown up on Wallace and Grommit!

    They just weren't clever enough to make the thing that makes the toast, throws it up in front of your face and adds a dash of butter!

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  2. Skylarker

    Skylarker PL High Commissioner

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    That's why I don't use Facebook :bandit:


    That's a lie, I don't use Facebook as I don't want fake arse ****s from 20 years ago suddenly thinking they're my mate.
     
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  3. Skylarker

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    What's your full address?
     
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  4. Treble

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    Alexa is that you? <yikes>
     
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  5. johnsonsbaby

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    You make some good points but it's all linked to a belief that these devices are on permanent listening mode and recording every conversation in the room. I don't believe they are or do. That's ok, we can disagree on that.

    I have genuine questions which the conspiracy theory still hasn't answered. We're told that recording starts when you say the trigger word. This is either true or false. If it's true, which I believe it is, I can go to the appropriate amazon page or ask Alexa directly to delete the recordings. If it's false then there had to be two recording lists per account, the ones you can delete and the rest of the recordings which you (some of you)believe to be everything spoken in the room the device is in. Questions: how do they separate the stuff being recorded into two lots so that they get to keep a secret set of recordings? where are they storing this humongous amount of recordings? Who ( which individuals or organisations,).would be interested in hours and hours and hours worth of unidentifiable mundane conversations?

    The Alexa device has to be registered to an Amazon account but it can be gifted so the account holder isn't necessarily the same person who has the device in their home. They really are pretty much unidentifiable unless,, you choose to attach it to an ordering account which needs a delivery address and even then it's not necessarily the address where the Alexa device 'lives'.

    I'm a very private person , not on any social media,, will never post a picture of myself or family anywhere or send any to friends in case they unwittingly post them on their social media. And I'm not the least bit worried about Alexa. Phone and computer, yes.
     
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  6. Sucky

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    Never knew turning the lights on yourself would cause such a stir<laugh>
     
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  7. Treble

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    With regards to listening to hours and hours, I am guessing there are certain trigger words (probably for consumer marketing sake) that get flagged electronically and they're the ones that get filtered out.

    That's all I got btw.
     
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    I'm recording you outside your window now :emoticon-0126-nerd:
     
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  9. Skylarker

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    The lights are on but no one is home...
     
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    It tasted **** all like tea !
     
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    Still smart enough to turn them on and off myself though<laugh>
     
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  13. johnsonsbaby

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    With Alexa (Amazon Echo device) you have to say Alexa to activate it. It doesn't recognise the word but the acoustic pattern so sometimes it's triggered by similar sounds, not very often in my case. It plays the song you've asked for if it has it as part of your account and it answers questions ' I think its linked to wikipedia. It may or may not be listening to me all the time :bandit:

    If marketing companies are getting something out of the song titles I like, good luck to them.
     
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    They have staff constantly listening to conversations on the premise that it’s used to ‘improve the service’.

    There’s been examples of recorded conversations being sent in error to contacts due to misinterpretation of a command. It’s intrusive and without regulation, potentially dangerous, as the information gleaned could be used for commercial purposes in the future.
     
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    But if the questions you ask, or conversations you're having, have certain words that become flagged up then it wouldn't be too onerous to keep track. A computer could pretty much do it all, from thousands of homes and collate into specific algorithms and even automatically target marketing or other commercial material to them all. It wouldn't need much manpower.

    Btw I know nothing about Alexa, Echo etc, but was just answering that one point about having to take hours to sift through the conversations.
     
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    So I wonder if Commy will buy one now? <laugh>
     
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    They openly tell you when you buy one that they will keep recordings of everything you ask it and also show you how to delete recordings. I've not done that yet.

    It's only intrusive if you believe it's listening to you all the time. I don't believe that for one minute.
     
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    I don't believe there are hours of conversations stored anywhere. I simply don't believe it's recording all the time. That was my point ie what would the point be in doing that.
     
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    Homeland Security?


    <rofl>
     
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    <laugh>
     
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