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Off Topic Brexiterrs vote today

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  1. Red Robin

    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    What a speech :emoticon-0148-yes::emoticon-0148-yes::emoticon-0148-yes::emoticon-0148-yes:

     
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  2. RedorDead

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    Have you read any of her beliefs?
     
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    As you said yourself he was seen as the best choice by others , he didn’t court it himself , that backs my point that he didn’t seek it out.

    As for supporting evil , that’s not how I see it, we may not agree with others, but far better to talk to them. There was a point in time when Sinn Fein could not even talk on the BBC, they had to have actors voices dubbed over them, Now they are represented in government. This was only achieved by talking to them, history shows talking Is far more effective than not.

    Our government talks to many regimes it doesn’t agree with , Russia , China to name two, talking to people doesn’t mean you agree with them.
     
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    Yes. She makes succinct points about the EU's lack of democracy. She is making a point about democracy in that clip.

    In regards to religious beliefs Ann Widdecombe should be allowed to hold her devout beliefs as do MEP's and MP's of various faiths within other parties.
     
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  5. oneforthebristolcity

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    Today is the 243rd anniversary of the USA leaving the British Empire without a deal! (Nigel Farage)......He has a point!!
     
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  6. RedorDead

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    So that’s a no then!

    Read what she actually believes in regarding abortions and gay rights, religious rights or not.

    Buts it’s ok because she wants to leave the Euro.


    No need to reply, as I won’t be.
     
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  7. AshtonRed

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    She used colourful language, which I don’t agree with, to make a point, a point which was accurate about lack of democracy in the EU.

    I make a judgement on each issue, I agree With her on this issue, I disagree with her on abortion and gay rights.
     
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  8. johngalleyfan2

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    who are you talking about? Corbolliks or Hunt!
    you are also comparing different ends of the poker when you talk / mention Russia-China v IRA/HEZBOLLAH etc OK elements within the Russian setup have different agenda's to the government .. like poisoning people .. direct targets not cart blanche massacres of unknowing masses ...
     
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  9. AshtonRed

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    Corbyn , my point is it’s better to talk to people like he has, talking to them doesn’t mean you agree with them. You suggest by talking to people he agrees with them, I gave the example of talking to Sinn Fein and how talking to them stopped them being terrorists , I prefer jaw jaw to war war.
     
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    I will reply. There are numerous MP's who hold views on abortion and gay rights and religious slaughter and more who I would disagree with. They have a right to those views regardless of their position on the EU.
     
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  11. Red Robin

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    Whats her view on Abortion and gay rights.
     
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    This makes no sense at all?
     
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  13. RedorDead

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    This is what I’m alluring to mate, read her Wiki page.
    Yes it’s ok to have views but when I vote I like to understand that I’m voting for the right person not just based on party.
     
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  14. johngalleyfan2

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    its deeper than that, it is the comments people pick up on that cause alarm … "support" being the key word …. ah another coffee has arrived … on a diet so no biccy.
     
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  15. AshtonRed

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    Pro life, anti LGBT
     
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    Wasn’t Corbyn part of the peace talks with IRA hence his pictures with them?
     
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    Furking hell Rod he was in their back pocket
     
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    He sympathised with the cause of catholic’s in NI, no doubt, many did , I believe he used any influence he had with them to persuade them to go down the peaceful route to change things , which they did , you don’t achieve that by not talking to them. If he in anyway helped facilitate a peaceful solution he potentially saved many lives .

    That hardly puts him ‘in their back pocket’ as you so colourfully put it.
     
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    Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn's links to a pro-IRA group were examined by police in the 1980s and early 1990s, it has emerged.
    Speaking to The Sunday Times, a senior police officer from the period revealed there was serious concern at the time that Mr Corbyn's links, including hosting IRA and Sinn Fein figures at the House of Commons, had allowed the IRA to become familiar with the layout and security of the building.
    Mr Corbyn came to the attention of police after becoming involved with Red Action, an ultra-left group that expressed its "unconditional and uncritical support" for the IRA and included members of an IRA bombing team.
    Patrick Hayes, a Red Action leader, and another member, Jan Taylor, were convicted of an IRA bombing campaign in England and sentenced to 30 years in jail.
    "He knew they (Red Action) were open supporters of terrorism and he supported them," he said. "We had no evidence that he knew they were actively involved in terrorism themselves."

    A former Special Branch officer, Peter Francis, has also said that Corbyn was investigated over his IRA links. There is no suggestion he carried out any acts of terrorism.
    Red Action's journal, seen by The Sunday Times, says it provided security for Mr Corbyn and others in their work with the Troops Out Movement and Labour Committee on Ireland, which sympathised with republicanism. In mid-1992 Red Action co-ordinated a speaking tour with Mr Corbyn to protest against the treatment of republican prisoners.
    At the same time, Hayes and Taylor were plotting a bombing campaign that would include attacks on Harrods, Canary Wharf and Tottenham Court Road.

    Red Action stated in the journal that "both as an organisation and as individuals we support the activities of the Provisional IRA and the INLA unconditionally and uncritically", and saying IRA killings "were justified in the fight for freedom".
    Mr Corbyn is listed as the keynote speaker at Red Action's 'national meeting' on February 23, 1985...…..

    When was the peace agreement? sometime around 1998?
     
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  20. Red Robin

    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    There you go guys digest
     
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