Depends how many had a financial interest in a no deal Brexit. These ****ing lemmings in normal jobs with a normal income backing it still are painful to watch.
The sainted ones do represent the majority of people who could be bothered to get off their arses and vote though Was it raining that day so all the remainers and millenials who thought the result was foregone didn't bother voting Is that the real reason they spend so much time complaining Because the reason they lost was because they arrogantly thought no one would vote leave so they didn't need to put down the latte and actually vote
None of that matters anymore, because (apparently) most of the Brexiteers have snuffed it since 2016 thereby rendering the referendum obsolete. At least that’s what the Namby Pambies in the dirty yellow ‘Bollocks...’ t-shirts would have us believe. Caroline Flint for PM. Failing that... Caroline Flint for Playmate of the Month, full centrefold, money shot, the lot.
Jeremy Hunt in a bizarre interview this morning. He’s said something about bringing back fox hunting, but when asked on the wireless about whether he thinks it’s cruel to the animals (purely how they are killed, not about whether their numbers need control) he repeatedly said ‘my views on this are a matter of public record’ rather than simply saying what his view is. Weird. I keep forgetting that he, unlike his opponent, actually has a job at the moment, that of Foreign Secretary. He’s making all the right noises about China and Hong Kong, and China is making predictably bellicose ‘**** off you old colonialists, none of your business’ noises back. The main concern of the useless Mishal Hussein, which I think is reflected in most of the media, is the potential impact of upsetting these totalitarian bastards on our trade, rather than the impact on the population of Hong Kong, so Hunt has a get out of jail free card when he ultimately does nothing, not even sanctions. Meanwhile police in HK said to be preparing to round up a huge number of protesters, after having been told to by the CCP. The only person who actually stands up to the Chinese government is Trump. Of course he couldn’t care less about freedom and oppression, he’s only interested in perceived national economic advantage.
We're seeing a major political stitch up with the new leaders in the EU. A convicted fraudster chosen to lead the European Central Bank. A backroom deal to appoint a failing and largely unknown German politician as Commission president. This is democracy, EU style. Stinks.
Too many people have been calling for EU reform and restrictions for aeons, not only to implement better democracy and accountability, but also to stop unwanted mission creep, both politically and economically. It’s these sorts of appointments that once again underscore our disenchantment with the franchise. If we were listened to, or actually had politicians with the will and power to make changes, there may not have been a Brexit in the first place.
Exactly, Uber. The bias, favouritism and underhand deals are endemic in the EU. It's just part of its make up. And so cynicism and populism over the whole of Europe will grow.
I agree, but it’s always been like this and it’s only now when we are allegedly leaving that we get upset about it. Odd. And it’s very similar to the way U.K. ministers are appointed - grace and favour, no competition, no transparency, sometimes not even MPs. At least in the US the person dishing out the patronage is directly (nearly, with the ridiculous electoral college system) elected, not picked to head a party by a tiny percentage of the population and becoming PM by default with all this largesse and taxpayer funded jobs to hand out. Western democracy, what a stitch up.
Like I said previously, Stan, we get the politicians that we deserve... or at least the apathetic, largely unthinking majority deserve. The Tory Party hasn't been fit for purpose for about 25 years. The Labour Party doesn't know whether it ought to be socially democratic, or the representative of blue-collar workers, or communist revolutionaries or just kowtow to rich, public school types wearing Che Guevara t-shirts because they think it makes them look cool (and, anyway, the Motorhead one is in the wash, ya?). The Nambies are a bunch of geography teachers, self-important form-fillers and self-harmers. Most of them ought really to be in nursing homes drawing pictures of Noah's Ark with coloured crayons. I enjoy the burps. Trump, Farage, even Uncle Jeremy (for an extremely short while) were fun. Maybe we need Boris to get the majority animated again?
No, Stan, different to UK Ministers because for a start, most ministers have been voted in as an MP. And their party has been voted in to government. Who has voted in Christine Lagarde? What chance did we have to vote in Ursula von der Leyen as any position in the EU? Von der Leyen has a poor reputation in Germany for ineffectiveness, so she's being sacked into a greatly more senior position because of whom she knows.
Now that Jeremy Corbyn has been shown to be a complete failure, Labour are lining up the heavyweight....Rebecca Long-Bailey Be interested to hear from all Labour voters on here who would get excited by that appointment
I do hope Corbyn steps down because he's become a liability, but I think his replacement must be from the radical left of the party. McDonnell is the obvious choice, but if they want someone younger, maybe she fits the bill. Hardly exciting, but then no one really knows anything about her.
Most U.K. ministers are MPs but far from all. All ministers are appointed by party patronage, and often not on the basis of competence but to reward loyalty or appease an internal party faction. The leaders of the EU who nominate the EU officials behind closed doors are all elected in their own countries, it’s exactly the same as here but one step removed. For every Von der Leyen there is a Chris Grayling. Would you prefer it if the EU Parliament formed the EU Government, and EU commissioners were drawn from MEPs? There is a small irony in you railing against lack of democracy in the EU, an organisation we are meant to be leaving, while defending British government ministers, the very people who have denied you your democratic wish to leave.
That "one step removed" is very important. And elected EU leaders can't vote on someone who hasn't been nominated. This is the BBC on Van der Leyen's surprise nomination: "Germany's powerful Green Party is threatening to veto the nomination [of Van der Leyen] in the European Parliament. "It's an unparalleled act of political trickery," says Sigmar Gabriel, a big hitter in Germany's centre-left SPD and former party leader. He called on his party, which governs Germany with Angela Merkel's centre-right party, to block the nomination. Otherwise, he warned, the EU elections that were supposed to give the elected parliament more power in allocating top jobs risked becoming a farce. Martin Schulz, former EU parliamentary president and Merkel rival, condemned what he called backroom haggling over top jobs. Arguably Mr Schulz is more annoyed that his own backroom deals to get a fellow centre-left candidate into the job have backfired. He has been outmanoeuvred once again by his nemesis, Angela Merkel." This machiavellian scullduggery is someway from the UK voting in a Party for 5 years and the PM appointing ministers from mostly elected MP's (I'm struggling to remember when a Lord was a minister). Probably Adonis under Labour, just a guess. As to democracy in the UK, I won't be voting for any party that has individuals that block us leaving the EU. So my vote could go to Brexit Party if the likes of Grieve and Letwin act in negative ways. That's democracy right there.
She has no executive power and goes out of her way not to make her political views knows. Kim Kardashian has more influence.
