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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. I do agree but would rather spoil my paper. My 75 year old mum, love her, was a staunch remainer in the referendum but is now full on leave because she hates the idea of going against democracy. She spoilt her paper in the Euros and took great pride in telling everyone <laugh> She will still vote labour if we have an election though!
     
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  2. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

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    But then if we showed we were willing to make the effort NOT to vote then it makes it all the better.....
     
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    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    You can do that with a brick.
     
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  4. That's for the gig thread mate <whistle>
     
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  5. bobmid

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    Reckon they just voted to remain mate.
     
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    bobmid Well-Known Member

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    Interesting numbers. I wonder of the 156, who wanted a no deal brexit and who a deal brexit?
     
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  7. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    We can dig this stuff over endlessly Bob, does it make a difference? They can’t agree and whoever the next prime minister is that will still be the case. The numbers, between and within parties, don’t add up.
     
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    Uber_Hoop Well-Known Member

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    Spherical objects, Bob. You know as well as I do that there are opinions, aims and ambitions on both sides of the EU divide. My reckless and feckless imagination has me supposing there to be some that would have a United States of Yerp given half a chance. Let’s face it, this ain’t the common market the electorate voted for back in 1345 (or whenever it was). People get excited and missions creep.

    Governments of both colours have repeatedly said in the recent past stuff like, “we would rather stay in the EU and reform it from within than leave”, which suggests to me that even Remainer parliamentarians don’t think the status quo is the nirvana it’s supposed to be, but there’s never been any meaningful reform because individual member states are largely powerless to effect change.
     
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    Fair play
     
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  10. bobmid

    bobmid Well-Known Member

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    Politics was never my strong point.
     
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    You’re a good man, Bob. Stick with me; I’ll educate you. :)
     
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    No offence uber, I'm beginning to think all politics is corrupt and above the law in some circumstances. People have the opinion that the EU is corrupt or describe it as a protection racket. I have the same feelings about my own country, infact every country is like it. As I said once before, we live in a society where failure gets rewarded for the higher class citizen.
     
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    No offence taken, matey-peeps. I’m inclined to agree with much of that sentiment. Sadly, I think in general we tend to get the politicians we deserve. You only need fool enough of the people enough of the time. Enough of the people are fooled into thinking that the choice put before us is the only choice, so seldom ever changes.

    Then, occasionally, you get a burp and the electorate choose Brexit or make Trump president.

    I think it was Mark Twain that said something to the effect that anybody seeking public office ought to be excluded from doing so on the strength of that ambition alone. I think he was broadly right.

    Much of what politicians do is out of vanity and self-interest. I see little of any real benevolence across the whole spectrum.
     
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    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    Finally, a representative of the #transrace community in the EU.
    It's been a long time coming.
    Rachel Dolezal has paved the way for this to become a reality.
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    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    Enough with the Nazi analogies. The Brexit Party is not 'fascist'

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    Brexit party members turn their backs on the musicians during the European Anthem at the first session of the new Parliament at the European Parliament, in Strasbourg, France. Credit: REX
    Brexit Derangement Syndrome has led to a total loss of perspective
    Yesterday, while the EU anthem Ode to Joy played in the European Parliament in Strasbourg, the new Brexit Party MEPs protested by turning their backs on the music.
    Make no mistake, this was an infantile rebellion that achieved little, beyond embarrassing Britain. But it certainly did not merit the apoplectic reaction it triggered on social media, as Remain-voting commentators revelled in the chance to deploy their favourite insult - “Nazi”.
    Soon, a 1926 photograph of National Socialist deputies turning their backs on the speaker in the Reichstag was doing the rounds. Hardline Remainers encouraged their followers to draw parallels...
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    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    tally ho
    Jeremy backs the hunt: Tory contender ready to repeal ban
    Defence secretary also vows to act on Northern Ireland abortion law
    Kate Devlin, Chief Political Correspondent | Esther Webber, Red Box Reporter
    July 4 2019, 12:00am, The Times
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    Mr Hunt met Tony Rudgard, 96, a long-time party memmber, in Alton yesterdayDAN KITWOOD/GETTY IMAGES
    The foxhunting ban should be repealed if there is a parliamentary majority in favour because it is “part of the countryside”, Jeremy Hunt has said.
    The foreign secretary said that he wanted to reverse Tony Blair’s hunting legislation but that he could only do so after a general election producing a Conservative majority.
    He told The Daily Telegraph: “I would [as] soon as there was a majority in parliament that would be likely to repeal the foxhunting ban then I would support a vote in parliament.”
    Mr Hunt, who does not hunt himself, said: “I would vote to repeal the ban on foxhunting. It is part of the countryside. And we have to recognise that in terms of the balance of the countryside. It’s part…
     
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    I am empowered Staines
    We are all on the way to the next life
    What’s important is what you do in the now

    Do not hesitate as we are the lucky ones
    Hence why I don’t take any fluff from anyone around me who bitches about stuff from a position of luxury we all find ourselves in Europe

    Plenty of people don’t even get that choice on this planet
     
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    They won’t be able to agree what to do post Brexit imo either
     
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    Not what I said though was it?
     
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    Great post.
     
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