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Barton masterplan is revealed

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  1. Colly NUFC

    Colly NUFC Active Member

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    He doesn't need to be, he's agents and PR men around him to do that.
     
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  2. Hugh Briss

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    Nobody will dispute that agents are a stain on the name of football - the Joey Barton perspective seems less straight forward to me.

    I don't believe he wanted to leave Newcastle United and I don't believe that he 'engineered' the whole thing for a big pay day.
    I could be wrong but I honestly think he was just speaking his mind and Ashley wanted rid.

    As has been mentioned, he's taken a big pay cut to join QPR so I don't believe Barton wanted out. He could have waited for a free transfer next summer and still got a decent wage somewhere... maybe even abroad. There was plenty of interest in him from many clubs.
     
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  3. Toon_Tiger

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    going by that article it says "£1.5m- a-year signing-on fee" which to me says he get 1.5 million per year he is at the club for the duration of 4 years...
    that works out at just under £29,000 a week, add that on to his £40,000 wage and he is earning just shy of £70,000 a week excluding bonuses..

    Money he would not have a chance of getting if he had signed a new contract with us.


    * also to add further insight.. he will earn around 3.5million a year... if he stays for the full contract he will have a nice round figure of 14 million.

    so yeah i doubt he went for the money on this one
     
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    <laugh>

    quick and to the point.... i like it
     
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  5. Jock McMagpie

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    I don't believe that either, hence me writing maybe not so much from Joey's point of view. The article was more to the point that Joey has been badly advised in order to line his "representitives" pockets!!
     
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    Your being very naive if you think most of the £2.5m didn'y go in Joey's pocket...........his agent was paid for advising QPR!!! and an unnamed third party advisor trousered the rest.
     
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    So QPR were willing to shed out a few million in order to get this deal through.....but yet NUFC dont make a single penny out of it.

    Anyone who thinks NUFC couldnt have a made a cool £1million at least out of this is a moron. Step forward MA and DL and anyone else who agrees with their stance.
     
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  8. Freddd

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    Signing on fees are one offs - - the article has a typo, whihc you might expect given its source. A 3 year contract extension with us at his existing wage would have earned him about £7.5 million over three years. His deal with QPR sees him making £6.5 over that same period, but with the added benefit of a 4th year worth £2m. There's very little difference between what Barton wanted to play for us and what he is said to have signed for at QPR. It's not lie he has engineered a huge payday (at least by the insane terms of professional football)
     
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  9. Colly NUFC

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    Maybe true but it seems clear from the refusal of his contract in January and his agents comments after going on the list that he expected better clubs and contracts to be involved. When that didn't materialise a few years at QPR was probably a better option than one at a club he'd been publicly bashing for weeks.
     
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    That was my point earlier. They wouldn't pay him a £1.5m fee every year, it would be stupid.
     
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    I think QPR was a better option because itw owner has ambition which he is willing to back up with cash.

    It's not like Barton had to leave Newcastle: the fansliked him, Pardew rated him, his team mates like him and, best of all, staying at the club would have driven MA crazy. Barton didn't leave for a big pay day and didn't leave because he wasn't welcome at every level of the club except the board room. He says he left for a club with ambition. That's the sort of statement you always take with a grain of salt but inthis case I don't see any reason to think it's not true
     
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    Disagree...........the new QPR owner never had hundreds of millions of pound of debt, a wage bill of £60m + or relegation to contend with.............we might hate Ashley ( and i do deeply)for being a buy/sell merchant and having no idea of the passion/loyalty this club has and deserves...................but without him we might be Portsmouth.
     
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  13. And so you should, fella - Ashley has actually stood by you <ok>
     
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    That doesn't really address the point I was making.

    You're essentially saying that MA has good reasons for not having ambition that he is willing to back up with cash. Let's say that's true. It doesn't affect my point, which is:

    a. QPR appear to have ambition backed by cash

    b. I think that's what influenced Barton's decision
     
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    Not for lack of trying to get rid of us.
     
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  16. Toon_Tiger

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    How do you know its a typo.. it wouldnt be crazy for a player to get a bonus for each year he is at the club.

    it seems too well laid out to be a simple typo.

    hey you know what maybe barton is innocent in all this after all, maybe he made loads of typos in his twitter ramblings inadvertently making himself look like a complete nob
     
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  17. Rum & Black for 2

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    If the move wasn't for money reasons, how does JB leaving square with his comments that just because you're told to jump(move) doesn't mean you have too and that he would only leave for a Champions League team?

    I don't have a problem with JB or anyone moving for money, most people would. My problem is those that do but pretend it's for some other reason such as ambition.

    Also JB had one year on his current contract left. Therefore, maximum sum of £2.5 mill ( if wage £50,000 pw ).

    Monies now due at QPR given above info. 4 years x £40,000 = £8 mill + £1.5 mill signing on fee means total wage £9.5 mill which averaged over 4 years = £2.375 Mill pa or £47,500 pw ( but over 4 not 1 year )

    Of course the move had nothing to do with money.

    And that doesn't take into account any other bonuses.
     
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    The game is all about money so there are too many rats to flush out.
     
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    What influenced Bartons decision was that he was offered a 3 year deal in January which is almost identical to the one he is on at QPR now. He turned it down - by his own admission live on Talk Sport - because it was not 'long enough'. The club withdrew the offer. Nobody came in for him, until he was transfer listed on a free, then he had to go to QPR, because nobody else wanted him, eventually ending up with the same deal, over the same amount of time he could have had had he not got greedy 6 months ago.

    Yes the board were stubborn and could have renegotiated, but they gave him an offer, he said no, and went on a twitter tirade against the board. They weren't going to reopen talks after that.

    I don't think he engineered the move for money, but he did engineer it to make sure he didn't look bad or greedy. He realised he made a mistake in January, and was probably very ashamed that all he could 'engineer' in the end was a move to a lesser club on the same terms he turned down.
     
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  20. Colly NUFC

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    Bingo!
     
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