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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Turkish" Premier" Hoops

    Turkish" Premier" Hoops Well-Known Member

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    I beg to differ, but the EU hymn is NOT A NATIONAL HYMN, secondly they stood up as protocol demanded, they turned their backs in protest at the fact that an organisation for trade and co-operation should not have what is in fact a “NATIONAL ANTHEM”, The EU is not a nation it is a corrupt group of people trying to force a nation superstate on individual sovereign states.
     
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  2. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    I’ve just downloaded it and am having a play, it’s rather good. Only downside is that you don’t actually get to speak any of the language, but it’s a painless way to practice and correct ingrained mistakes. Good fun.
     
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  3. colognehornet

    colognehornet Well-Known Member

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    To be honest it does not matter much whether it is a national hymn or not, the EU is their employer. There is no point whatsoever in having people in a Parliament of any description if they are not signed up to the values and constitution of that Parliament. Would you accept the delegates from Sinn Fein in Westminster ? At least they are honest enough in their convictions to stay away from the place. I am not saying that I would stand for all national anthems - I don't for the British one because I am not a Monarchist, and do not want her, and her family, to rule over us - but then, I am not in their employ either. The EU was never intended to be only an organisation for trade and cooperation - that must have been clear when Britain joined. At the same time nobody has tried to force Britain to join any of the measures for deeper alignment - the country already has enough opt outs to prevent ever being a member of what you call a 'nation superstate'.
     
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  4. colognehornet

    colognehornet Well-Known Member

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    Actually the most spoken form of English is currently Indian English - could this become the 'norm' in future <laugh> Most East Europeans have a grasp of Russian - because their languages are so related to each other - if you speak Polish you will be able to understand Serbo Croat, Czech or Russian without great difficulty. Also just under a quarter of the German population (of 40 plus) had Russian at school. Whilst Europeans may continue to learn English at school there is every indication that French and German businessmen will use each others languages more and more in future, without the medium of English. Nearly all German children have English and French at school, with one of those taking over for the last 2 years - in the future French could have the advantage.
     
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    bobmid Well-Known Member

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    I must correct you. The most common form of English is 'gangsta English' innit blood
     
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  6. Quite Possibly Raving

    Quite Possibly Raving Well-Known Member

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    You do eventually have to speak. You feel a bit like a plonker speaking into your phone, but it's a very good app otherwise.
     
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  7. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    EU CRISIS: Parliament set to REVOLT against 'backroom stitch-up' to replace Juncker
    EUROPEAN Union chiefs could soon find themselves in hot water as parliamentary opposition grows against their plans to replace Jean-Claude Juncker.
    By Joe Barnes, Brussels Correspondent Joe Barnes
    PUBLISHED: 08:49, Wed, Jul 3, 2019 | UPDATED: 14:53, Wed, Jul 3, 2019
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    MEPs, who have a casting vote on the next European Commission president, have rounded on German defence minister Ursula von der Leyen’s nomination for the role. EU leaders have been accused of ignoring democracy by facilitating a backroom stitch-up for the bloc’s top jobs package in Brussels yesterday afternoon. A growing list of members of the European Parliament are insisting they will find it incredibly tough to support the European Council’s desired appointments.
    Much of the criticism centred around the abandonment of the so-called lead candidate (spitzenkandidat) process, which is designed to give a democratic mandate to the Commission presidency.
    Instead, leaders held a series of closed-door meetings across three days as they frantically scrambled to fill Mr Juncker’s role before he is scheduled to step down at the end of October.
    MEPs are expected to vote on Ms von der Leyen’s appointment in two weeks time, which could prove a tricky process for the German.
    She requires an absolute majority, according to the Parliament's rules, and if she fails EU leaders must propose another candidate "within a month's time".
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    Ursula von der Leyen was nominated by EU leaders to head the next European Commisison (Image: GETTY)
    The European Greens have voiced anger at the selection, and their 74 MEPs are set to vote against the package, according to group sources.
    Greens were concerned that the European Council had made part the Parliament’s presidency part of its overall package.
    Ska Keller, the Greens co-president, said: “This backroom stitch-up after days of talks is grotesque, it satisfies no one but party power games. After such a high turnout in the European elections and a real mandate for change, this is not what European citizens deserve
     
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  8. DT’s Socks

    DT’s Socks Well-Known Member

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    Agree you can’t learn a language in a classroom
    Not many of the new generation English can speak our own language anyway?

    Cancer looks ok on fat people and a lot worse on thin people imo
    I have always believed that Cancer is a completely natural process and that comes from me a current survivor and mine is back for a second go at the moment ... no biggy imo get the mindset right it’s acceptable

    Never agreed with the stigma attached

    Keep going until the end of the game
     
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  9. Staines R's

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    Keep strong mate......
     
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    Staines R's Well-Known Member

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    Can I ask how this democratic EU council election works ??
    How many candidates are there for each position that the MEPs can vote for ?
    For example, how many candidates are there for President of the European Commission ? So far I’ve only found one.
     
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  11. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    This is the way it works mate. There is a democratic system which is ignored. Like how the British choose their Prime Minister
     
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  12. Woodyhoopleson

    Woodyhoopleson Well-Known Member

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    Gypsy throat punch the **** out of it mate.
     
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  13. daverangers

    daverangers Well-Known Member

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    You're telling me...how the words, 'this class is a waste of my time, I will never need French when I am older...' have haunted me in the 9 years since moving to Paris.
     
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  14. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    Full Shepherds Bush style Paul. Including proper Parka.
     
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    Staines R's Well-Known Member

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    We, the enlightened ones are best out of it mate

    改變只來自槍管
     
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  16. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    As long as the barrel contains fine English bitter, I’m with you.
     
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  17. rangercol

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    I hope a representative of the awful Liberal Democrats comes knocking on my door at some point.
    "Bollocks to Brexit"?
    Bollocks to 17.4 million people who voted leave, including myself, more like.
    If I get one of these idiots on my doorstep, they will regret it.
     
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  18. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    Can you get Mrs Rangercol to film it, then post it on here? Incendiary Col in full eruption, summer blockbuster.

    Actually I’d quite enjoy that myself. ‘I voted Remain, and although I now couldn’t care less, I think that was the right call. But I also know what a ****ing vote is. What’s your problem?’
     
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  19. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

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    There are 67 million people in this country, 50 million of whom didn't vote for Brexit.

    Bollocks to it.
     
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  20. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    34 million of that 50 million didn't vote against it. That’s a crap argument Strolls.
     
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