Young Liverpool striker Nathan Eccleston is under investigation by LFC on the orders of our owners,The lad tweeted on the 10th anniversary of 9/11 that in his opinion the twin towers were blown up by the shadowy mysterious worldwide illuminati society and not muslim terrorists. http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/live...name_page.html#sitelife-commentsWidget-bottom Our American owners from their perspective rightly took offence but as a nation they are proud of their right to free speech and i've seen lots of American documentaries that are full of conspirisy theories about what exactly happened on 9/11. Imo He was stupid post his views on the day he did,he knew anyone with a PC/internet phone can read his tweets,he should have considered those that died before making his comments on twitter,but even though i disagree with his conspirisy theory i think he has the right to use his freedom of speech. The thing is now he has to face anger and ridicule because he used the same form of media that has got a few players in deep **** since its introduction. Was he right or wrong to make his views known when he did? Have our owners got the right to sanction him even though he is employed in this country and not the USA? Should players be banned from using twitter if they can be sanctioned for speaking their mind?
I think he was silly to do it when his employers are American and it was a day for them to remember their dead - no doubt FSG knew many who died that day. What's more, it sounds like a half hearted joke, I can't imagine if he truly believes that but if he does, why air his opinion on twitter right then and there? The problem with twitter is it makes a lot of players think people value their opinion when quite frankly I (for one) couldn't care less if they're about to 'watch the wire back to back' or 'pop the kettle on' or think that the twin towers was a conspiracy. (didn't realise ecclestone was an engineer and expert in such areas). In summary, if he had truly thought about his tweet before he sent it he wouldn't have ended up sending it and biting the hand that feeds. Silly boy. Edit: in answer to your questions: 1. Yes he was wrong 2. Yes they can sanction. He represents LFC on twitter and in public. It sucks but it's unavoidable. If I was in the public eye and slagged off my boss/indirectly insulted the company I work for then I would expect to be sanctioned. 3. No, Twitter is fine but players should know that what they say can have consequences. Why should twitter be any different than real life; words there still carry the same meaning.
He truly was a silly boy doing it on the day he did,i just wonder if there would have been the same fuss if he'd done it at any other time than when he did. He should have shown his respesct to the dead,and should have realised the backlash that would head his way after he pressed the send button.
^^. I sincerely doubt it would have caused such offence if it hadn't been tweeted on that day. The fact that he had to make his opinion known right there and then was stupid. If he had said some weeks later (prompted by watching a documentary for example) that he thought it was a conspiracy then it wouldn't have caused as much offence IMO.
The irony is that he probably did get his illuminati theory from a tv documentary sometime before the 10th anniversay but stupidly chose to make it known when people around the globe and especially the USA were mourning the victims.
Yes because there was/is nothing serious about all the deaths on 9/11 and we should all just laugh it off
He's a tube for doing it but everyone has the right to an opinion. He's hardly posted a video of himself kidnapping children or something. Yes - it was a tragedy of terrible, inhumane proportions, but I sincerely doubt he was the only person to express similar views. Here's a great video of the conspiracy theory being debunked by the way, if anyone's interested. This is the first of several. [video=youtube;stVmEmJ666M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stVmEmJ666M[/video]
I don't see the fuss. He didn't insult or disrespect those who lost their lives...he's simply voicing his opinion that the wrong people are being blamed under a conspiracy. It's questioning the integrity of the USA government, nothing else. People need to get of their political high horse and realise that people are entitled to opinions and not every comment needs to analysed for some hidden insult. I, personally, don't believe a word the USA government say about the attacks, there's too many questions they refuse to answer and too many holes/coincidences in their story of events HOWEVER me saying that doesn't mean I care any less about the innocent who lost lives that day. Same **** as nathan - albeit he's in the public spotlight a little more than I. Much like we want to see the true events unraveled from Hillsborough for true justice, I want to see the true story in its entirety from 9/11 and the right people held accountable.
Have followed Eccleston on Twitter for a while and he doesn't seem like the brightest spark or the most decent human being judging from the content of what he writes. No surprise that eventually something like this would happen. Just my opinion.
This is a case of the difference between being a private and a public person. Eccleston has become a public person by being a Liverpool player and any statement that he makes will be viewed in terms of his realtionship with Liverpool. No matter what our private thoughts about 9/11 if we were in Eccleston's position we should be aware that any public statement we make will be interprited in terms of that relationship and the sensibilities that are associated with it. Every player has the right to their own thoughts but if a player from another club made their own thoughts about Hysel or Hillsborough public then we as LFC fans would demand that their club took action. The same applies to Eccleston - we have US owners who will have sensibilities about 9/11 which will be raw at this time of year and to make public statements of this type is just asking for sanctions to be taken. He has an agent who should be advising him that such statements are not in his best interests. He's not a silly little boy without any advice. He therefore deserves any action that the club wished to take.
I am pretty sure that the owners will accept that this is nothing but a typical dumb post by the lad....why would he be any different to any other lad his age...he's 16 ffs, we shouldn't expect him to be the oracle of wisdom!! A very quiet word in his ear but no more....
simply put the lad is an idiot. simple as that, not thinking not even considering the actions he takes. To be frank we can just give him the sack cos to be frank he no loss if he's this stupid.
I think players shouldn't use Twitter, Facebook etc, they are under contract to the club have a responsibility to think before they say something that could cause the club harm. I'm not really talking about this particular incident but in general.
FFS yourself! Nobody is suggesting that he should be tied to a post and flogged! The issue has become public and he now has to be made aware of his responsibilities - which are wider than those of the average 16 year old. Sure a quiet word in his ear but followed by some sort of public appology from Eccleston.
There's a time and a place to express those sort of views. I'd never put my political or ideological values on show for everyone to see; people have very varying opinions in these matters and it can lead to some heavy arguments and heated debates. They belong with friends, yes, but not on twitter where everyone can see. If he had posted the same thing on Facebook, there wouldn't be any backlash because presumably only his friends and family would have seen. If I was the manager of a team that all used twitter, I would tell them to use Twitter wisely and don't abuse it because it can lead to hefty fines. It's the equivalent of talking to the media (as that's where the red tops get their info from these days) and I'm pretty sure Ecclestone wouldn't go to the media and say "9/11 was masterminded by the illumni." Apart from anything else, what would the illumni have to gain from that? More likely it was Al Qaeda who was ordered by the US government to carry it out to justify the war on Iraq.
I really don't give a toss what the lad thinks- is he an expert on such things? The problem with modern communications is that it's easy to present an ill-informed opinion as fact to a wide audience. This is always going to cause controversy. People really need to think a bit before they speak and consider the repercussions of what they say.
1. very single player has been educated on the issues of social networking... or in thier case self publicity. 2. this chump, becasue thats what he is, has bascially gone and made a crass comment online.... 3. one COULD say that if you put yourself in an american's position on the 10th anniversary of septemebr 11.... then compare that feeling to a native liverpudlian on the 10th or 20th anniversary of our own tragedy.... well i think mr itandje got fired effectivey for laughing at a ceremony... this fool basically did the equivilant of saying the rag was right! actully it really annoys me the more i think of this guys actions... thoughtless, crass, low end. I'd be quite happy to hear he's sent on loan to a league 2 side and then sold on for a pittance and released... but then thats just me thinking on it and it cuts close to the bone as i do.
