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  1. "Thanks for that Brian"

    "Thanks for that Brian" Well-Known Member

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    I think you need to read less of that stuff. The vast majority of it is total fabrication made up to get clicks and sell advertising. .

    Last summer Mauricio Pochettino was off to Real Madrid and then United. This summer it has been Juve. A couple of summers ago, The Manchester Evening News spent the entire summer claiming that we were selling Eric Dier to United. It was a done deal. A certainty....it never happened.

    Recently, it's that United will sign Christian Eriksen and we're going to buy Bruno Fernandes...we aren't....they aren't.

    Writing as if this stuff is true and inevitable, or even likely, is just pointless.
     
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  2. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Also contemplated that idea.

    IF we sign the two CMs AND keep Eriksen... Spurs fans won’t be needing to use PornHub next season, we’ll just be using YouTube to watch replays of them in action.
     
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  3. The RDBD

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    I reckon a Levy tax was set for Madrid specifically, and perhaps stupid PL clubs.
    For other overseas suitors, I suspect the price is not cheap but is fair.
     
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  4. humanbeingincroydon

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    I spotted somebody on r/coys kvetching about us not getting our transfers done already, as if anyone barring Los Ladrones has actually made any significant signings so far this summer

    As nonsensical arguments go that has to be...about in the middle, given Harry ****espout comes up with dozens of arguments that make even less sense every single month, but the point is the question isn't "Why aren't we signing players early?" and instead the far more pertinent question is "Why do we leave it so late?" - and that's the important part, because while there are reasons to not rush into bidding for Ndombele and Lo Celso (the former because of Lyon's arbitrary deadline as they pretend FFP is an issue, the latter as the Spanish transfer window doesn't open until July 1st) but on the other hand there is no reason whatsoever for us to have not thrashed out deals for Sessegnon and Clarke already considering both would be considered U21 players so wouldn't involve us having to play a game of Jenga with our squad that Ndombele and Lo Celso would
     
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  5. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    Exactly, when you're selling a top footballer, it's a sellers market and depends on multiple factors. You let the offers come in.

    We took less for Modric from Madrid than we could have got, had we sold him to a PL club. I'm sure than the same would apply to any of our players now, with the possible exception of Madrid , as we've got them by the balls, post-Bale.

    The price is the most any club will pay that fits with our interests, if we decide we want to sell. If we set a price and someone offers to pay it, we've done ourselves out of money. Daniel Levy doesn't do that and he doesn't need to.
     
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  6. humanbeingincroydon

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    While we're probably the team most people associate with tapping-up tax after screwing every last penny out of the tappers-up for Berbatov and Bale, we're not the first team to do it (Lyon did similar to the Chavs for Essien back in 2004) nor the most recent, which would be Southampton taking Saltypool to the cleaners over van Dijk
     
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  7. Citizen Kane.

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    This is a really tricky one but I think I'd agree. Although I don't think this will be an outcome. My feeling is if he doesn't go he'll sign a new contract no more than 3-4 years in length and with a release clause that will keep him marketable and valuable at the same time, say circa £60m.
     
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  8. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    For over a year, there's been a rumour that didn't fade or alter...that Christian Eriksen wanted to play for Real Madrid and wouldn't be signing a new contract whilst that remained a possibility. It could be complete bollocks but the only club that he's mentioned as a possible destination is Real Madrid, despite the Danish media and Michael Laudrup constantly beating the drum for Barcelona.

    I'm inclined to think that there's something in the Madrid or bust rumour and that Zidane might prefer Pogba. I tend to agree with Zidane that Eriksen wouldn't fit in there and they don't want to be Levy'd again. They'd take him on a free but would he do that to the club?

    My money's on him signing a deal to stay but the fact that I'm still working for a living suggests that's not a given....
     
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  9. Citizen Kane.

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    The Eriksen saga is a really intriguing one and actually quite unique in our recent history. We have a rather large group of players who are simply too good to play for 99.8% of teams in world football. Nothing to do with wages as is the case at other clubs who struggle to move players on for this very reason (i.e. Arsenal, United etc.), it is simply about quality and personal aspirations. And of the literal handful of teams who represent a step up in quality and aspirations, even fewer have worse players currently playing in those positions (which makes sense, else they wouldn't represent that step up to start with). When Walker left for City we faced a similar situation. Only about 10 clubs in the world at the time represented a significant 'next step' in his career. It just so happened that one of them also had an urgent need for a new RB - one of the few weak links in a very strong side.

    By all accounts, Eriksen favours a move to Real. By all accounts, Real don't seem all that keen on him at the moment. Some of us (myself included, I admit) have interpreted that as down to a 'lack of big game mentality', which is probably wildly off the mark. Instead, the reality is more likely to be that Zidane would prefer to fix his problems with a deeper lying Modric heir and sees his AMs as an already strong enough hand. Or, Perez has instructed him to balance the books a bit now after an outlay of over £200m and sell before buying further. Both of those explanations are perfectly plausible and don't reflect negatively at all on Eriksen's abilities. But if Real do go cold, where else could he go? I sincerely hope not a rival PL side (United, Chelsea and Arsenal would all probably kill themselves for a chance of signing him right now). Beyond Real, Barca landed Griezmann and De Jong but could yet show an interest (all depends on what happens to Coutinho I suppose), Bayern aren't the team they were, PSG play in a crap league and are as toxic a club as you can get, Juve are pretty well stocked but do have an abundance of players the wrong side of 30, Atletico now have an urgent need but again - aren't a step up anymore, and so on and so forth.

    It's a reflection of how strongly our players have developed under Poch you can now count 'next step' options on one hand. This is a new (albeit nice) dilemma for us fans to contemplate, but an even harder one for the players to dwell on.
     
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  10. yossarian

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    Hence the reason i wrote "IF". Or are you saying that we should trust the rumours you quote but not mine?

     
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  11. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Said earlier in the season long before the links intensified I felt it was Madrid or bust for Eriksen. I don’t think my opinion has really changed now either.

    We won’t sell domestically - and realistically only City probably appeal to him and they already have the guy who’s the level up from Eriksen anyway.

    Can’t see Italy or France being destinations he’d want to go too.

    Bayern could be an option now that Rodriguez isn’t joining them permanently.

    Barca don’t seem interested nor do they need someone like Eriksen at the moment what with Arthur and Frenkie there.

    So I’d say it’s only really Madrid or Bayern as sides that’d be a big step up and in a league that would appeal to him. One seems to have cooled their interest, the other hasn’t any even shown interest.
     
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    It would have been best had he kept tight-lipped. It took Rose the best part of 2 seasons to get back to his best after similar comments.
     
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  13. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    The difference though is Rose was ****y in his comments. Eriksen never slagged Spurs off and even mentioned the willingness to stay if an exciting new challenge (basically Madrid) didn’t arise.

    Rose spoke about knowing his worth and how much he deserves to be paid, which was mocking our finances and belittling the club, not forgetting the whole “googling players” line, which is ironic considering he was a nobody when Spurs signed him, as were some of his teammates.
     
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  14. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    I'm surprised you got to that level of paranoia from my post. Why not go back and read it again with an open mind?

    ...but if you want to think like that...knock yourself out but try not to suggest it on here?
     
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    Very true. Could still be a little awkward walking into the dressing room in early July
     
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  17. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Lol yeah. Although I suppose the players know anyway, can't imagine players keep it a secret whenever they're either wanting a move away or had someone make an offer for them.
     
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  18. yossarian

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    One of my big hopes this pre-season is that Marcus Edwards shows enough progress (as a footballer and maturity) from his loan spell to become a regular in the first-team squad.
     
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  19. Spurlock

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    I think people struggle to see their own team in any moment of darkness..no negativity allowed unless it’s what the collective think. I’ve been pretty negative throughout the season and I can back it up. I couldn’t really support anyone with my head nodding 100%. Wether that’s my football team or someone in my life.

    Example

    It’s not the narrative of Pundits that Poch messed up the Moura selection. I can’t help but notice it...mention it...discuss it.
     
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  20. Spurlock

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    No mate he ****ed up by dropping Moura.

    Why the excuses?
     
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