Yes we do. You just never see him as he is always in the virtual treatment room whilst claiming to be 'fitter than ever'
The most predictable thing in the world was that this thread would descend into a love in Just to stay on topic...u got the painters in kph? I think the point of the thread is a fair one but once we've all had our say on a subject then sub threads do have a tendency to appear...but I do also think that on the more important subjects there is often a quality debate going on you just need to sift through some verbal detritus sometimes to find it.