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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by remembercolinlee, Feb 1, 2017.

  1. remembercolinlee

    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    :emoticon-0159-musicBlame it on the Bloggie <party>
     
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  2. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    I personally think you were/ are having a pop at the wrong people mate.

    You give Levy a lot of stick and he deserves it for the failure to sign Grealish but it’s widely reported that it was Poch, not Levy, that was refusing to spend for the most part. Levy said himself in the meeting with THST that funds were there to spend. Yet it’s Levy that seemingly gets the brunt of your frustration.

    Then you’re going along the lines of singling out Eriksen for our failures and claiming he’s not a big game player when in fact the stats would show he turns up in big games more than any other player in our side. The CL final was very disappointing from him but it was also disappointing from the other 10 Spurs players alongside him, yet he’s the one you single out.

    I personally think the whole club needs to act better. There’s no one single factor for me.

    Levy needs to bring in the best players now and the days of haggling over £3m-£5m has to stop.

    Poch needs to improve his management of players and situations and also recognise you can’t expect better results with the same tactics/ personnel.

    The likes of Dele, Eriksen (if still here), Son and Lucas need to improve (or regain) their consistency.

    Trippier (if still here) needs to put a rocket up his own arse and shake this season off and regain his form from the 17/18 season and World Cup.

    Kane needs to realise he can’t play every second of every game.

    Lloris needs to bring his latter season form for the whole of next season because we cannot afford for any more brainfarts.

    It’s a collective effort for me, no one person was responsible for a disappointing season, there were too many factors and that’s why I usually disagree when people want to single out just Levy, or just Eriksen.
     
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  3. "Thanks for that Brian"

    "Thanks for that Brian" Well-Known Member

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    <applause>

    I'll chuck in us as fans, as well. The drop off at Wembley after we lost to Juve was telling and this season was ****ing dreadful.

    The atmosphere at the new stadium against Citeh showed what we can do. If we're putting in 5/10 or 6/10 as a support, who are we to criticise the players?

    As a club we have to raise our game to the level of our stadium...ALL OF US!
     
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  4. The RDBD

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    No, it just made you look like someone who has too much to say
    about things that you know too little about. As is the case with all of us.

    You can SPECULATE about what happened last summer on the
    transfer front, and nothing more.
     
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  5. Spurlock

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    Poch got blamed too...he's had an easy ride for his brain fart in the CL final...I haven't mentioned it nearly as much as I would like to.

    I know last week you said you're over it and you're looking forward to next season but I'm not over it because it's a problem and someone needs to be blamed and you will recall me mentioning our semi against Chelsea as an example. Plus Poch gets criticism for being too loyal from me too referring to him as the players 'dad' as u no doubt recall. That's the one thing that will stop him being an Elite manager.

    Ive even had a go at the scouts...the thing is I know there is something wrong with some of the Personnel at our club and I think it's to do with our culture. Levy's haggling...Poch's selection brainfarts...I seemjust can't keep on making excuses for them...they seem like careless mistakes to me and we suffer for it.
     
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  6. Spurlock

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    Yet I can guarantee you that you will know alot more than transfer talk when it comes to other clubs and your opinion on them <laugh>
     
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  7. The RDBD

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    Again :

    it just made you look like someone who has too much to say
    about things that you know too little about. As is the case with all of us.
     
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  8. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    It's about getting a balance for me.

    Clubs with endless playing resources win stuff for a reason. Come the end of the season, their players are rested and ready to win. Clubs who have played well for 7 months with less resource lose semi-final and finals because they're not fit or fresh and have nothing on the bench.

    Playing Harry Kane instead of Lucas Moura was a mistake. MP can stand by it all he likes, but it didn't work and for once, we had a fitter, in-form alternative on the bench.

    However, I'm struggling to see any other manager, who we could attract, who would outperform MP, given where we are as a club with our finances and recent history. Pep's great when he can buy who he wants. I doubt that he'd last 10 minutes at Spurs.

    Daniel Levy has been saving money for 18 years to finance our stadium. If we continue to spend frugally, he deserves criticism. If we buy at a higher level, he doesn't.

    Whether our scouts deserve criticism is impossible to say, given whoever they recommend, it is then up to others to try to buy or not.

    We're spending much less than the clubs around us and sticking in there...let's hope the additional money isn't wasted like United, Arsenal and Chelsea have been doing. Their scouts have come with Fred, Sanchez, Drinkwater, Morata, Bakayoko, Mkhitaryan, Xhaka, Kolasinac - most of them above our record transfer (especially given transfer inflation) and on mental wages

    Shirley, it's about being balanced in what needs to improve?
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    They have generally been able to do so, waste or not, because the money
    was always there the next season (CL etc) to go "meh" on their failings.

    In the case of the Goons, not any more. :)
     
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  10. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    Chelsea **** up and they send Morata, Bakayoko, Batshuayi out on loan and ask their owner to chuck in another £100m.

    Citeh's buying is better but they can hide Stones and Mahrez, as they have so much resource.

    As you say, the Gooners are fresh out of hiding places and are now facing doing what we've had to do over the last decade - compete on fresh air. Currently, it's not working out and what they have is getting older.
     
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  11. The RDBD

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    Chelsky have classless good fortune.
    As I often say, I hope Nemesis has a "biggie" lined up for them.


    "As you say, the Gooners are fresh out of hiding places and are now facing doing what we've
    had to do over the last decade - compete on fresh air.
    Currently, it's not working out and what they have is getting older."

    Spurs are not in a dissimilar position to them in 2006.
    CL finalists. New stadium online and needing to be paid for.

    Time will soon tell on whether ENIC "sweat" the new WHL asset well enough to :

    1. repay the debt ASAP

    2. also generate the revenues to sustain the higher annual transfer/wage bills needed
    to maintain Spurs current PL/CL position at the minimum, and push on to that final step
     
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    The Express are claiming Liverpool are going to bid for Son and Moura <laugh>
     
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  13. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    I'm not sure that no.1 is on the agenda.

    Arsenal had the misfortune to borrow money at a time when interest rates were high and to want to sell the Highbury developments when property prices were low. Also, they didn't have Joe Lewis or Daniel Levy running the projects.

    There's a good chance that we'll pay off a good percentage of the debt over 20+ years. We're borrowing in the US or maybe Canada, at extremely low fixed rates because we're a proven, profitable business with a multi-billionaire owner and multiple income streams that will ensure that we have the money. Basically, we're a sure fire cert to a pay off the debt. There's a fair chance that if we just directed the income from the 16 non-football events to the debt, we'd pay all of it off in 25-30 years.

    That's what ENIC bring, long-term planning from top business people. They've planned this out in great detail, had some good fortune with interest rates and the riot, although Brexit was bad luck. None of it has been half arsed though. Chelsea have tried to finance something similar and there have been no takers at all, because Abramovic isn't Joe Lewis.
     
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    Ndombele Watch
    "(Tottenham) are a big club, finished fourth in their league, Champions League runners-up, which player wouldn't be interested in joining a big club?"

    Quote from 1:00 in this video


    NOBODY ****ING MOVE
     
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  15. Citizen Kane.

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    I'm starting to get the jitters got to be honest. The potential Pogba domino effect worries me greatly. We need to move and quickly.
     
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    Here's the thing: Ndombele says he's going to take a holiday and consider his options before making his decision in July

    In other words, he's telling Aulas to **** off with his timetable (which everyone knows is complete bollocks anyway)
     
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  17. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    *Ahem* https://not606.com/threads/transfer-thread-fact-and-fiction.343033/page-583#post-12914253

    You're getting slow, HBIC, that's now twice in the last few days I've beaten you to transfer news <laugh>
     
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    Exodus Watch
    The Times are reporting that, should The Sheikh Mansour Team make a bid for Joao Cancelo, they will bid for Trippier

    Well that's a tough one: on the one hand we would happily see Trippier leave after the season he's had, on the other we don't want TSMT to strengthen...although as that would dump Kyle Walker down the pecking order it'll be hilarious to see if the ****ing snake bastard shows the same concerns about player rotation that he did when he threw his toys out of the pram in spite starting twelve of the fifteen games before he pretended he'd been on the bench half the season
    The main source for this story? John Aldridge.

    Don't suppose we can get an ex-player who failed at management to say we're going to buy Robertson and that Slovenian twat from the Champions League final? Anyone want to find out what Nick Barmby's up to?
     
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    I wouldn't say no the Son, would do well for us in rotation. I think Moura is shot now, he won't recover from his final rejection.
     
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    It's a worry
     
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