reading that i think the club need to advertise a job in the bucks free press ...........fans liason officer urgently required,any one of us on here could apply,we all know what needs to be done
You are right jose, I dont mind the club trying to get as many advance ticket sales as possible. The only problem with that is that many casual fans may not fancy going until the day of the game and they are simply being treated badly as well as being stung in their wallet. Also, im stunned that the only response to concerns around tumbling attendances was the JPT game the other night. Our attendances have been awful all season. Something is going seriously wrong somewhere - England dont play every day and its not as if they are the most popular team at the moment! No doubt we shall have a half decent support today as its a local one but im dreading seeing the turnout for home games against Exeter, Hartlepool, Tranmere etc. I honestly dont know what im more worried about - the fact our attendances are not far off what we got in the Conference or that the club dont/wont acknowledge that attendances are a concern. Shocking.
Well - I have finally got a response - I have recently been forwarded an email regarding your concerns over attendances at Adams Park for the first few home matches of the season. The club are always interested in the views of supporters and would welcome any idea’s to boost attendances throughout the remainder of the season in the current climate. I have indicated below the average attendances for all clubs in League 1 for your information, so you are able to make more informed suggestions rather than thinking your club is the only club attendances that are lower than last season. I trust you acknowledge in the current climate supporters disposable income is key to everybody’s standard of living and this is borne out in all leagues and with all attendances. I would welcome any suggestions which I will ensure you will be considered if they do not conflict with either the season ticket or membership packages the Club have already implemented. I look forward to receiving your suggestions? Regards Team Total Average 1 Sheffield Wednesday 71,997 17,999 2 Sheffield United 52,168 17,389 3 Charlton Athletic 59,920 14,980 4 Huddersfield Town 48,882 12,220 5 Preston North End 44,339 11,084 6 Milton Keynes Dons 22,426 7,475 7 Chesterfield 18,739 6,246 8 Notts County 23,008 5,752 9 Oldham Athletic 22,913 5,728 10 Brentford 17,058 5,686 11 Tranmere Rovers 17,036 5,678 12 AFC Bournemouth 22,556 5,639 13 Hartlepool United 15,828 5,276 14 Carlisle United 20,047 5,011 15 Scunthorpe United 18,564 4,641 16 Exeter City 13,289 4,429 17 Walsall 12,972 4,324 18 Wycombe Wanderers 12,755 4,251 19 Bury 16,840 4,210 20 Colchester United 16,277 4,069 21 Yeovil Town 11,512 3,837 22 Leyton Orient 10,685 3,561 23 Rochdale 10,345 3,448 24 Stevenage 9,681 3,227 Karen Murphy Commercial Manager T: 01494 455 704 F: 01494 527 633 M: 07525 401766
the trouble is, if the matchday prices are decreased then that means people may be paying more for thier memberships than just buying tickets, which would conflict the memberships. JS, i agree, i think the club is fed up of people talking about the tickets, which is why the response could be considered rude. in terms of the attendences, we should certainly be aiming to get more than walsall, exeter, carslile, hartlepool and bournemouth at least.
Yes I think its a pretty rude response too. I understand that they cant make tickets cheaper now that members already have season tickets but wheres the incentives??? How about for EVERY game, any season ticket holder can bring a mate for a fiver? Anything like that would be a welcome initiative. As for saying that people have less disposable income to spend on going to the football, it is true. However, if you look at some of the clubs on that list, they are from parts of the country that are considered to be experiencing severe deprivation yet are still getting good crowds. I think its a mark of a good football club (Bradford, Hartlepool etc) who are still getting the good gates DESPITE the economic downturn and not using it as a pathetic excuse. Karen Murphy can kiss my arse.
surely the club can benefit from suggestions on here and the gas room and implement them next season.also the idea of getting season ticket holders cheap tickets for friends is not gonna cost them revenue is it .it would benefit the club in the long run with bigger crowds and more revenue from food and beverage sales in the ground.
the likes of bradford and hartlepool have shown other clubs the way forward in a recession its a pity ours never followed the lead
I don't think the response is rude. Maybe a little tactless, but to the point. Basically they have implemented season ticket and membership packages and I can understand why they would not want to consider any changes to those; at least this year. Maybe she could have added "this year". It would have also helped if the table had backed up the statement that gates are down generally from last year (ie shown last year's gates and the % decrease). The plus point was that someone took the trouble to reply and welcomed suggestions that didn't conflict with the "unchangeables". So suggestions like season ticket holders can bring a guest for free, or a family for fiver are presumably not out of bounds. We have the boundaries within which we can make some suggestions; let's make the most of the offer. I think it is important that we accept they may not be able to change some things (probably costly and impractical) and that we maintain an amicable relationship with WWFC in order to be heard. Cheers Ron
reading on the gas room today whether its true or not steve hayes wants to go to a higher authority than wycombe district council to pursue the new stadium ,why would he do that if he wanted to sell ,it doesnt make sense to me.
i agree we should have an amicable relationship with our club and at least we have a response from our emails which is something in my mind that we can build on in the future.
Sorry, I dont agree that WWFC should be applauded for simply replying to fans. Considering the club is regarded as a 'family club' a snotty email reply to a fan's concern is not what I call effective PR. For too long now, clubs and their corporate tag lines have been allowed to run roughshod over the important issues and fan's opinions. I couldnt care less about keeping amicable relations with Karen Murphy or any other corporate weed whose fan's hard cash is spent on. Its our club that pays them not the other way round. Nearly all the replies we have recieved show a lack of respect for the fans and, until that changes, they dont deserve respect. WWFC like so many others has COMPLETELY lost touch with its fans and reality and the sooner some start taking a more direct, tough stance on these issues the better.
OK DB. Well if that's your view, whatever chance there was of any communication has probably been sunk if they read this. Sometimes relationships might get off on the wrong foot. There are 2 options. Either try to build the relationship, in which case it's quite likely it will become stronger, or kill it dead. I thought it was worth a try.
Fair play Ron, I understand your point of view, even if I dont agree with it. Im just sick and tired of the same old excuses time and time again. Sadly, the amicable, gentle nudge, voicing our concerns style just does not work. I would be dead impressed if WWFC administrators were reading this but I dont believe for a second that they do. I have to ask, do you seriously think we could have built a relationship with these clowns on here??! From the replies to concerns from 606ers I dont think we'd have got anything more than we got already - lipservice and semi-automated responses. We all agree that football is about money and business more than the actual game now etc but acceptance of that is nearly as bad promoting it. I normally go for your diplomatic approach mate but no can do this time - not when our club seems to be being slowly run in to the ground.
